[jwalsh07]

Nice post, no video, no audio here. Wading through the vituperation and angst was becoming useless.

My initial reaction is negative but not quite as negative after your post. But the devil is in the details.

Drivers licenses? Voting rights? Babies born to guest workers entitles Mom and Dad access to the dole? Who pays the administative costs of the new blue card employment agency? etc., etc.

[Flyer]

Wading through the vituperation and angst was becoming useless.

Many here were posting as he was speaking. I turned from the computer and listened

[rintense]

And what about the tax implications to citizens? Educating their children? Paying for their healthcare? I, too, was less negative after reading Flyer's post. But now all the questions are popping up. This seems too much of a rosie picture to me. And I still want to know how the government is going to track down and deport those illegals who choose NOT to register.

[King Black Robe]

"Guest workers" as a low wage concept is just slavery-lite anyway, especially with the current illegal situation. I do not see this amnesty for lawbreakers plan as an improvement. The root problem is companies who do not want to pay fair wages or obey labor laws (and perhaps consumers who do not want to pay the costs either). Look for our children to be called on to pay reparations for the unfair wages and unfair conditions these people are working under today. Their legal status will be a non-issue by then. It's going to keep coming back and biting us in the butt.

Additionally, why doesn't anyone acknowledge that the taxes these workers pay come nowhere near covering their gov't services, even temporary ones. (At $8,000 to $12,000 a kid for education alone, one worker with three kids adds up to $36,000 in education costs alone.) We the taxpayers are subsidizing these businesses anyway. We might as well do it on the up and up by paying higher prices where applicable.

Maybe I am missing something but this sounds like a rip-off the American taxpayer scheme to me.