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I will give you another example as a case history:

I used to go out of my way trying to hire neighborhood kids (17-19) year olds. Big strapping kids too.

On one occassion three of them came looking for work, and I obliged them. I told them I only needed two guys and had a days worth of work to try them out. They complained that they all wanted to work together...that they were some kind of team or somthing. Right then and there I knew they would not cut it. I gave em a crack anyway.

It was a Thursday, so I told them to be ready to work on Saturday and Sunday on one of my sites; new home in Mill Valley California.

The job was to hump a lumber drop up a dirt driveway to the site, and then to hump the lumber up two stories through windows openings and to stack the lumber for cutting. It was the roof rafter package and the sheeting for the roof. The lumber was two units of green 20 foot 2 x 12 and two units of 8' 1/2 cdx plywood.

In addition to humping the lumber, they were shown how to crown the sticks and mark them properly. I told them I expected the lumber to be all moved in one day, and then on Sunday they could scrap out the site to the debris box at the bottom of the drive. I told them with three guys that should take about 4-5 hours.

I knew how long it should take, and I knew what it was worth. Despite that I let them work as a threesome despite the fact it was going to cost a bit more money.

Now these strapping young lads showed up late on Saturday, and I stayed with them for about an hour making sure they were on a roll and then I left. I told them I would be back at 5 PM....7 hours later.

When I got back to the job, they had barely dented the pile. None of the wood they did pack and stack was crowned properly. Nothing was scraped out.

The next day I hired two hispanics. The hispanics on Sunday not only humped the sticks, but they scrapped out the job too in less than 8 hours. Both of the Hispanics were sitting under a tree at the bottom of the drive when I pulled up around 4 PM. They said they finished an hour early! I gladly paid these two guys 2 100 dollar cash bills...for 14 hours of work. Because my 150 dollar an hour crew could rock and roll on Monday...

I have repeated this excercise a thousand times. The white kids are pussies. I have tried countless times to bend over backwards for the local kids...they just don't cut it.

To top that off the three kids came looking for thier 'pay' on Sunday evening at my house. I gave each of them 10 bucks and they got all pissed off...I told them to go screw themselves...and later got a visit from one of their parents...I told that parent I didn't even want pay them anything, and they were lucky they got soda pop money.

Unless you have been on the front line like I have, dont tell me that all Americans wants these jobs...cause not only do they not want these jobs...they cant cut it.

In the end I hired one of the two hispanics full time. He got taxed and paid out just like anyother full timer. When he finally left my company two years later he was making about 22 bucks an hour, swung a hammer, and had a nice new truck. I personally went and sponsered this guy to the extent I could and he eventually won some sort of permanent residence status.

Last I heard from him was he was making 30 bucks plus an hour and was running work for another contractor.

Now go ahead and tell me about the scourge of aliens from south of the border, and how these guys work for substandard wages...

What a crock a crap.

A totally selfish attitude.

Did you ever try calling the local employment office. I'll guarantee you they'd have sent over some strapping men, probably black, to do the job.

That's how I did it when I needed stuff moved when I needed office equipment moved.

The last time I moved from one home to another, I forgo the high cost of hiring movers, rented a huge U-haul, called the employment office and had 3 strapping Americans willing to work. I paid them well, fed them and drove them home.

It's not that hard to find legal Americans to work. And I don't mind hiring legal immigrants that are documented. But I make sure the companies I hire have documentation for their workers.

If they happen to be Hispanic, fine. But I don't see the need when I know I can find a large group of native born Amercians to do the work.

I understand what you are saying but you have not seen the bigger picture. I'll get to that in a moment.

It is true that alot of American youth are spoiled and need a boxing about the ears over work ethics.

I also have construction projects where I use alot of Ukrainians and they are all legal. They don't speak English but they try to and they improve over time. They are the hardest workers I have ever seen. They are also very appreciative of America and they want their children to have a better life. I pay them far above minimum wage and they know it. In return they give alot of quality work and if they screw a job up they redo it the right way on their time and they volunteer this, I don't have to ask them.
Now the key thing is they are completely legal.

When you go hire an illegal border crosser, you are hiring a lawbreaker and behind that lawbreaker is a movement of lawbreakers that are jamming this country's social infrastructure. The costs far outweigh the benefits.

You may think that you save money on construction but you are causing government budgets to swell unnecessarily.

If you were made responsible for the number of times your illegal worker's extended family showed up at the local ER, or you had to show up in court for their traffic infractions or accidents or you had to pay for the food stamps their family members are receiving and so on, then...

your costs would quadruple.

So the bottomline is you are thieving from society by supporting lawbreakers.

Get right with the law and hire a ***legal*** immigrant.