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To: Hostage
So when someone uninformed voices a flawed argument such as illegal workers pay taxes and deserve government benefits...

It is useless to even discuss this with you. You don't even bother to read my posts thoroughly enough to represent my position correctly.

Just to clarify things: I never argued that illegals pay taxes (most don't) and thus deserve government benefits (they don't). What I said is that if they are here working legally, they WILL be paying taxes, which will help defray the cost of any services they use.

If you are seeing so much welfare fraud in your state, something definitely needs to be done, because by law, illegals are not supposed to receive welfare at all. This proposal would not entitle them to receive welfare either. In order to be here under this program, they must have a job. IF they bring their family in, they must show that they can support them. If they violate these requirements, their work visa can be revoked.

A lot of the arguments about the current situation are valid, but this program may alleviate some of that. It certainly will not add to the problem. Why take the chance of coming in illegally, being arrested and deported, when you can come in legally to work at better wages than you could make under the table?

I can see that this is a very emotional issue for you, but you really need to calm down, read more carefully,a nd consider the big picture. You're going to work yourself into a coronary.

1,194 posted on 01/07/2004 2:48:45 PM PST by CA Conservative
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To: CA Conservative
You are right there's no use arguing with me because you don't listen. I did your post. Here's the gist of it:

they WILL be paying taxes, which will help defray the cost of any services they use

The work product they produce and the taxes they pay will in no way help "defray" the expenses they run up nor stem the problem from growing larger. Again, ... the reason is they do not earn enough, they do not produce enough. Their capabilities are limited to sending dollars back to Mexico that are used to make ready the next batch of illegal border crossers. Why? Because their leaders order them to do so. Why? Because there is political power in numbers.

Most people have no problem understanding what was just said. You are either mentally challenged or too stubborn to be educated or you are in the camp of the saints.

1,209 posted on 01/07/2004 3:00:44 PM PST by Hostage
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