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To: Sabertooth
4: Beef up Border Security with manpower, resources, and a Volunteer Reserve, if necessary. No troops, and no messing with posse comitatus, this should be a civilian effort.

The Legislature has a Constitutional power to provide for calling forth the militia to repel invasions, per Article I Section 8, and the Federal government has a Constitutional duty to protect each of the states from invasion under Article IV Section 4.

Why does this need to be a civilian effort given these facts? It seems to me that the State of Arizona should file a suit against the US Government under Article IV Section 4.

9 posted on 01/07/2004 8:38:33 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: mvpel
Why does this need to be a civilian effort given these facts?

"Invasion" has a specific meaning in law, particularly with respect to international borders.

Unless you are saying that this is an actual invasion being conducted by the Mexican government, it's a civil law enforcement issue, and the Posse Comitatus Act forbids the use of the military for civil law enforcement.

12 posted on 01/07/2004 8:41:50 AM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: mvpel
The Legislature has a Constitutional power to provide for calling forth the militia to repel invasions, per Article I Section 8, and the Federal government has a Constitutional duty to protect each of the states from invasion under Article IV Section 4.

Why does this need to be a civilian effort given these facts? It seems to me that the State of Arizona should file a suit against the US Government under Article IV Section 4.

Because the invasion is civilian, not military, and because we civilians are perfectly capable of accomplishing the task.

Troops on the borders and walls on the borders are examples of unrealistic, unnecessary, and counterproductive rhetorical overkill. We can solve the problem of Illegals asymmetrically.

The biggest problems with border enforcement are in the interior, not at the border. Enforce the law beyond the border, and the border will become more secure, as the incentive of a safe zone for Illegals will be removed.


14 posted on 01/07/2004 8:43:42 AM PST by Sabertooth
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