[xzins]

Cincy baseball fans are pretty sophisticated.

They separate Pete's playing time from his managing time.

He should make the Hall, they say, for his playing time, but other than that he should be out of baseball because of his managing time when the gambling occurred.

His hits had nothing to do with his later gambling as a manager.

[Wrigley]

Ryne Sandberg and Ron Santo should be in the HOF before Rose. I'm of the opinion he shouldn't get in until he dies.

[nickcarraway]

``My Prison Without Bars''?? Pete Rose continues to embarass himself. He should be sent to Iraq to do community service with athletes who really suffered.

Pete Rose fails to exhibit even the slightest particle of regret or realization that his actions were wrong. Even Bill Clinton managed to pretend. If anything, what he has shown in the last two weeks convinced me he is not ready to be rewarded by baseball.

I still can't understand how a man that age can still be a juvenile brat.