[pollywog]

Impressive post carlo3b. Only one objection I have.

Immigrants, YES!

Illegals, NO!!

[carlo3b]

Hell until this issue was raised almost all of us came from someone that slipped in under the radar, after the 30's.. Don't kid yourself, Canada was the boarder of choice to get into the US, undocumented.HA!.. Ellis Island was only for the truly poor, if you had a few bucks you got in and blended, ASAP..

[Commie Basher]

Impressive post carlo3b. Only one objection I have.

Immigrants, YES!

Illegals, NO!!

Whatever you're views on immigration, the above is a meaningless position, because it avoids the real issues. Think about it. If all you want is legal immigrants, then you can "solve" the problem by declaring every immigrant legal.

The real issues are: how do we define legal immigrant? What should the rules be? Should quotas be raised or lowered? Should immigrants be allowed to bring in entire families? Should deportation be enforced, even against the childen or illegals? Should deportation be enforced even after a person has been here illegally for 5 years, 15 years, 25 years? Etc.

Whatever anyone's views on immigrant, "Legal yes, illegal no" says absolutely nothing. It's just an easy way for politicians to duck the real hard questions. It's an attractive position, though, because you can complain about immigration without sounding racist or anti-immigrant.