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To: Lead Moderator
Well that graphic is just exactly what we can see on MoveOn.org or DU.

Thank you for pulling it.
92 posted on 01/07/2004 9:04:45 AM PST by Columbine
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To: 4Freedom; CWOJackson; Texasforever
"To: CWOJackson; Lead Moderator; Texasforever We anti-illegal immigrationists would appreciate your explaining the new rules governing civility on illegal immigration threads on FR to CWOJackson and Texasforever, LM.

CWOJackson has contributed more than 10 posts that are nothing more than bait to draw FReepers on the other side of the issue into a full-out flame war and that's exactly what this thread is beginning to degenerate into.

I call your specific attention to CWOJackson's #22 "I guess that beats menopause.", LM.

Count the number of times CWOJackson and Texasforever resorted to name-calling and personal attacks in the first 79 posts on this thread for yourself, LM.

If the new rules don't apply to FReepers on both sides of this issue, than nobody's going to follow them.

How many attempts at baiting anti-illegal immigration/anti-amnesty Freepers does the other side get before you sit them down, too?

81 posted on 01/07/2004 12:02:20 PM EST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)"

Thanks for the question, 4 Freedom.

I think a bit of history behind this effort is in order to give an explanation. First, you can review what Sabertooth posted at the top to get how it came to be.

I put this thread up on the 4th. As I stated in it, I started the next day, the 5th. When an immigration thread would go up, I would tack on a little foreward explaining that the thread was going to be monitored and providing a link back to that thread. As my time allowed, I monitored those threads carefully. I didn't pull anything, as it worked out, but I did call out whereever I saw something out of line, on both sides of the issue, as Sabertooth mentions above. If you go back and look at my posts on the 5th, I think you will see examples on all sides of the issue being called out and my reasons explained.

Then yesterday, three things happened. One was my day was busier. I was not around as much. Second, news regarding the issue hit and more threads than I could possibly have given the same amount of attention were going up. And third was that while some were working with me and trying to help out by abiding, a whole lot more were not and were trying to rally people to how unfair everything was- to the point where I was very close to scrapping the whole effort and returning to the recent status quo. I even posted as such on that thread (post 267).

This morning, I did go through and hit some of the threads that had gone up last night, including one where one of the people you named here had mixed it up pretty good with someone else. There were things that were against what we are trying to accomplish from both sides on that thread, and I did call them out. It wasn't the thread you just pointed to. I didn't hit that one because of time (I do have a life, you know) and because I was still burnt out and wondering if I was going to continue this effort.

As I stated on that post 267 I just linked to, this effort is not going to work without considerable assistance from Freepers on all sides of the issue to assist with a healthy amount of self-policing. Hopefully some of that will come out of this thread.

Regards, LM

110 posted on 01/07/2004 9:23:40 AM PST by Lead Moderator
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