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To: Pelham; Sabertooth; Cultural Jihad; Poohbah; PhiKapMom; DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; Howlin; Dog Gone; ..
Why don't YOU tell me what you think of Mr. Francis's quotes?

I find it interesting. First I'm playing a "gotcha game" according to Sabertooth at Post 266, now I'm accused by you of trying to "disrupt" innigration threads... all because I am asking a simple question that can be answered with a simple yes or no.

Why so much evasiveness? What sort of "gotcha game" are you so scared of? The simple fact I'm asking you to take a stand about comments at a conference that got Mr. Francis fired from the Washington Times, which is no bastion of political correctness?

I'd like to know, and I am sure others would as well.
414 posted on 01/09/2004 7:06:17 AM PST by hchutch (Why did the Nazgul run from Arwen's flash flood? All they managed to do was to end up dying tired.)
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To: hchutch
Why don't YOU tell me what you think of Mr. Francis's quotes?

I find it interesting. First I'm playing a "gotcha game" according to Sabertooth at Post 266, now I'm accused by you of trying to "disrupt" innigration threads... all because I am asking a simple question that can be answered with a simple yes or no.

This is a hoot, coming from a character who finds it necessary to be cagey about his own pro-Amnesty views that fall well outside the mainstream of American opinion.

You seem to think it's clever to endlessly and disingenuously self-gratify your Sam Francis fixation, as though your irrelevant litmus test had any bearing on posters who have nothing to do with him or his writings.

At various times over the pas couple of years, you've tried your "disprove hchutch's guilt-by-association" gambit with David Duke, Pat Buchanan, Robert Byrd, and probably some others I'm missing. It's one of your fallacies of preference.

Yeah, it's a gotcha game, and yeah, it's an effort to disrupt threads, and yeah, it's a ploy you use because your own arguments are weak and in disfavor. Unable or unwilling to debate your actual words, and other posters' actual words, you attempt to bait posters into endlessly disavowing writers and personalities they've never avowed.

You've been invited a half dozen times to post a stand-alone Sam Francis thread, where you can expand and pontificate your list of particulars against him. Go for it.

Why so much evasiveness? What sort of "gotcha game" are you so scared of?

Indeed, what's the reason for your evasiveness in posting your thread?

What are you afraid of?

The Sam Francis fixation is yours, where is the courage of your convictions? I've told you that I'd be more than willing to look at what you post about Sam Francis on its own thread, in this or any other forum. Post it and flag me. Why is that such a burden for you?

The reason is because this is all a dodge for you; you don't generally care to be forthright about your desire to grant massive Amnesty to Illegal Aliens. I've only seen you mention it when I confront you.

What's the reason for your evasiveness in answering my questions to you about your definition of "immigration restrictionists," and the open-borders ramifications thereof? Why haven't you had the intellectual honesty to address my follow up questions to you at #244?

What, hchutch, are you afraid of?


416 posted on 01/09/2004 8:32:15 AM PST by Sabertooth (Eighteen solutions better than any Amnesty - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1053318/posts)
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To: hchutch
Well gee, hchoochoo, why don't you tell us what you think of Hitler's quotes?

We have yet to see you disavow Hitler.

If I employ the 'logic' that you find so appealing, notably the Argument From Silence, your failure to disavow him means you must support him.

I'd like to know, and I'm sure others would as well.

On the other hand, you could pick up a copy of Copi's Logic, study the section on fallacies, and find out why no one with even an elementary knowledge of logic is buying your nonsense.

423 posted on 01/09/2004 8:03:51 PM PST by Pelham
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