[tcuoohjohn]

Yes...I have found that if you take the word " conspiracy" and substitiute " incompetence" many things become very clear and explainable. Incompetence is a ubiguitous phenomenon in the modern world. Effective conspiracy is much less prevalent.

Most of the theories about " FDR Knew" require the cooperation of hundreds or thousands of people to accomplish. The success of a conspiracy is inversely proportional to the number of people particpating in the conspiracy.

Incompetence on the other hand doesn't require a large number of people to accomplish. All it requires is laggard leadership on the Strategic and Tactical level. It was abundantly clear to me that there was incompetence at Pearl Harbor ( Kimmel and Short) and in Washington ( Marshall and Stark). Incompetence however is not conspiracy.

[jamaksin]

Does the SS LUSITANIA ring a bell?

For how many years (hint: measured in decades) did the US government deny she was carrying contraband?

How many soul's were put in harm's way ... how many Americans died (129)?

It is a "settled" fact that if a British underseas film crew had not released the photographs of her cargo (yup, munitions - my, my) in the mid-1970's the US government's position would be, even today, what?

Over the decades, any estimate of the number of people within the US government who knew the "truth?"

Oh, yes, within two weeks of the public release of those photographs - guess what - out of the National Archives pops her original cargo manifest detailing the munitions ... found behind a file cabinet was the story . Care to count again the number of people who knew ... over those decades?

You were saying ... ?

More examples ... USS INDIANAPOLIS, USS LIBERTY, USS IOWA, ... Do you see a pattern here - or did you just stop to stay within the dogma?

[With that pattern, imagine if the USS GREENVILLE had surfaced at night ... thankfully the US Navy in her case did the correct thing.]

Quite simply - far too many things are "not right" with Pearl Harbor ... far too many things to easily point to as inconsistencies ...

Why is that?