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To: HenryLeeII
Well, let's say that Harvey Martin was only using on his own time and not during games. It seems as though drugs helped put an end to his career along with numerous other Cowboy players who had brilliant beginnings. That does affect the team, so maybe the coaches and executives should "jack with them."

In spite of the drug use, Dallas was the winningest team in the NFL, from 1970-1990.

So, the "drug use" obviously didn't affect the team.

If anything, Dallas showed patience with people like Harvey Martin, who would have been canned had he been working for IBM.

But, when player after player turn out to be dealing drugs, assaulting women, etc., then it reflects on the team (or should at least).

And, if you're referring the the Landry or Johnson-era Cowboys here, you're flat-out wrong.

Barry Switzer, Johnson's successor, tolerated Michael Irvin's and Nate Newton's and other players' off-field antics, just as he had with the Oklahoma Sooners, yet still went to the playoffs and Super Bowl with them.

You've got a grudge against Dallas, and single them out, when there were as many or more druggies, and wife-beaters and malcontents on other teams.

They didn't win, though, so who the hell cares, right?

177 posted on 01/07/2004 12:14:09 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: sinkspur
No, I dislike the Cowboys for the reasons I've stated. The Redskins have bitter rivalries with the Giants and Eagles as well, but I respect those franchises. And despite being the winningest team in the NFL for a certain period, how much better could they have been with clean players? Besides, winning does not excuse criminal behavior by the players and the franchise turning a blind eye.

And do you really think that Irvin et al were model citizens under Johnson then all of a sudden went beserk under Switzer? Get real! Also, there were as many criminals on the team under Landry as during any other era. But I guess winning division titles and choking in the playoffs excused all of that! And name another team that has consistently had as many players, over the decades, in trouble with the law as the Cowboys. Even the Raiders look fairly tame in comparison.

187 posted on 01/07/2004 12:29:58 PM PST by HenryLeeII
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