[Scenic Sounds]

But if someone is knowingly hiring undocumented immigrants and flouting the law, and if it can be proven, then yes, prosecute them, but don't bankrupt their business. To advocate such is only demagoguery.

It appears that we agree on the wisdom of punishing employers who knowingly hiring undocument immigrants. As for an appropriate penalty, the usual standard is to design a penalty that is sufficiently costly to encourage compliance with the law.

The key here is to find a penalty that makes it so costly to hire illegal immigrants that rational employers will refrain from doing so. Obviously, penalties and enforcement should be ratcheted up in this area.

I have a feeling that Sabertooth and most others would agree to penalties that are less than the corporate death penalty so long as the penalties were made adequate to encourage compliance with the law. Again, I think that Sabertooth's proposals are worth some serious consideration.

[XBob]

36 - SS - Good point = "The key here is to find a penalty that makes it so costly to hire illegal immigrants that rational employers will refrain from doing so. Obviously, penalties and enforcement should be ratcheted up in this area. "

A solution, I have already posted on another thread:

For the first illegal found in a company, the company must pay for his return to home country. For the second illegal found, the company must pay for the return of him and another one picked up by dept of immigration. For the third illegal found, the company must pay for the return of him, and the return of 3 others picked up by the dept of immigration. These numbers would be continuously progressed and tracked. So that for the 51st illegal found with the company, they would have to pay for 50 returns in addition to the one caught. etc, etc, etc

This would make it a gradual progress, which small companies or mistakes could be 'afforded' and the big violaters would be forced to stop or lose their company.