America's fate in hands of illegal aliens?

worldnetdaily.com ^ | 1/7/2004 | worldnetdaily.com

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WND BOOKS

America's fate in hands
of illegal aliens?

New WND book shows immgration issue could determine future of U.S.

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Posted: January 7, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

With the U.S. government poised to make sweeping changes to immigration laws critics say amount to de facto mass amnesty, WorldNetDaily's publishing division, WND Books, announces a powerful new book destined to supercharge the debate over illegal immigration.

In "Illegals: The Imminent Threat Posed by Our Unsecured U.S.-Mexico Border," veteran journalist Jon E. Dougherty documents the hard truth that both major political parties have missed – namely, that sustained high immigration levels from south of the border will continue to pose economic, labor, security and criminal threats to the United States, unless American and Mexican leaders find ways to limit it.

Taking readers right to the front lines of the "border wars," "Illegals" includes interviews with citizens living along the most traveled border corridors in the American Southwest, as well as Border Patrol agents and other immigration officials who are charged with guarding and protecting America's nearly 2,000-mile-long border with Mexico.

Dougherty also brings readers along on actual "missions" involving local citizens' groups who are trying desperately to stem the tide of the illegal incursions. And he takes readers into the lives of men and women who have been victimized by hordes of illegal immigrants who cross their property by the thousands every year.

While acknowledging that most immigrants come to America to work and others come because they truly want to become U.S. citizens, "Invasion" shows that an increasing number come "merely to clamor for opportunities and benefits not available to them in their home countries."

"Worse," writes Dougherty, "there is a growing faction in America assisting them – knowing all along these immigrants aren't interested in enriching American society, but rather to take what they can from it."

"There is also a change in mindset among elements of the political establishment and among the U.S. population, in terms of immigration," writes Dougherty. "In years past, gaining access to America so one could share in its promise was treated as a privilege, not a right to be granted automatically just because you could make it over the border. Today, however, the process of immigration – indeed, the requirement our immigrants assimilate into our society – has changed dramatically."

"Illegals" is especially timely now, coming on the heels of an announcement by Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge at a town hall-style meeting in Miami Dec. 10. Ridge said Americans need to "come to grips" with an estimated 8 million to 12 million illegal immigrants and "determine how you can legalize their presence."

Though President Bush said Ridge's comments were not akin to granting illegal immigrants amnesty – a policy Bush said he doesn't support because it rewards lawbreaking – immigration-reform advocates and opponents in Congress say such a plan, were it to be adopted, would in practice be nothing less.

"Illegals" provides a gripping and profoundly disturbing dose of truth – the kind most politicians, whether Democrat or Republican, can't seem to confront – about immigration in modern America. As politicians now attempt to deal with this crucial national issue, the book couldn't have come at a more important moment.

Indeed, writes Dougherty in "Illegals": "How the problem is solved – or not solved – ultimately may decide the fate of this nation."

"Illegals: The Imminent Threat Posed by Our Unsecured U.S.-Mexico Border" is now available for pre-order exclusively from WorldNetDaily's online store, ShopNetDaily.

Related book:

Michelle Malkin's 'Invasion'

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Okay, here we go again. Let's all try to be civil. The Mods are low on patience these days.

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To me, the central issue is the rule of law. Many fo the same people who screamed about Clinton trying to apply a different standard to himself during the impeachment thing, are today justifying these LAWBREAKERS because they want nice landscaping and cheap lettuce.

I have a problem with that.

These people need to be deported simply because they are in violation of the law. Their employers need to be fined. THEN we can worry about bringing in cheap, legal labor.

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Our Conservative journalists have done an excellent job of exposing the problems of Illegal Immigration. Kudos to them all!

It's NOT a migration, it's an invasion! Don't let them get away with this!

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Does anyone have the numbers on the expense of our social programs for these people? It seems to be a purely economic argument to some who regard profits before legality.

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[A Navy Vet]

"...knowing all along these immigrants aren't interested in enriching American society, but rather to take what they can from it."

Argue the points all day and night long, but I've lived in California all my life (except for 3 years in Spain) and the above is ABSOLUTLEY part of the problem. I've watched whole communities turn into ghettos because of MASSIVE immigration and their refusal to assimilate. I've seen entire communites in Ventura, Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside, Ontario, and San Diego counties turn into barrios. This is okay? When is enough? Do we get to preserve our standard of living, and do we have the right to maintain it? How many can we take in yearly? 1,000,000? 5,000,000? 18,000,000? 35,000,000? I have NEVER gotten an answer to this question!

Have ANY of you heard of the "sinking boat" scenerio?

[Glenn]

The Mods are low on patience these days.

They should cut back on caffeine.

[JudgemAll]

Okay, here we go again. Let's all try to be civil. The Mods are low on patience these days.

I fear AMerica is afraid of this issue and FR could even split or implode on this.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1053173/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1052816/posts?page=82#82

It's nasty as ever. Mods will blow a gasket over this.

[JudgemAll]

They should cut back on caffeine.

I agree, in fact I think they should just sit back and let a have at it section on illegal immigration, so we can all slug each other for a while away.

[Ed_in_NJ]

"the hard truth that both major political parties have missed"

Missed? HORSE PUCKY!!!

They haven't 'missed' it, they're just putting vote-grabbing pandering ahead of the well-being of the majority of their constituency.

If they continue along the lines of abandoning us, we should abandon them - to whatever Party that emerges that places a higher value on US citizenship.

[JudgemAll]

I've watched whole communities turn into ghettos because of MASSIVE immigration and their refusal to assimilate.

Not only that, but like white farmers in Zimbabwe, the American tax payer is discriminated and does not benefit from amnesties, but only continued prosecution by the INS for hiring illegals, while the foreigners get away with it. That means we lose the farms and they get the farms... remember the suit by illegals against WalMArt... and trial lawyers behind it all...

[JudgemAll]

They haven't 'missed' it, they're just putting vote-grabbing pandering ahead of the well-being of the majority of their constituency.

I think they are afraid of a civil war.

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It's not just the social programs that are in place now --- but they will have to grow enormously as millions more poverty-stricken immigrants come over or are brought over by their relatives.

It isn't feasible with our very high costs of living and very high standard of living to think that millions of third world people with no education, no language ability, no job skills can make it on their own and be self-reliant here. A very few can.

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It's too bad Bush wouldn't include some of the inner-city residents --- who are American citizens on this "job-matching" program. If employers need emloyers, it's time we drastically cut the welfare programs and get those people employed and on the right track.

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it's time we drastically cut the welfare programs

But that wouldn't be "compassionate".

[Tim Osman]

I think I just found my next "must read". Truly scary stuff.

If I wanted to live in Mexico, I would move to Mexico. If I wanted to live in a socialist country, I would move to Europe. I want America back!

[Varda]

Stupid title. America's fate is not in the hands of illegal aliens. It's in the hands of people who vote for people like Bill Clinton, GW Bush. John McCain etc. They got what they voted for.

[stopem]

EXACTLY!! Excellent point, best one made concerning this travesty yet.
Put all the lazy bums on welfare now to work instead of bringing in some more illegal ones to collect welfare!!

I have never been this angry about anything Bush has done
this makes absolutely NO sense whatsoever.
He is NOT a conservative republican!

[meenie]

The answer to this problem has been solved previously in the United States. For employers and citizens wanting workers, the costs involved, education, health care, housing, etc. should be calculated and the employer should put up the necessary funds to reimburse the public sector for each foreign hiree that they bring in.

The indentured worker has to sign a contract with the potential employer for a certain period of time to repay the employer for the investment that he made to bring him in. This was a common practice in the 1800's and would eliminate most of the inequities people complain about today. Any plan will have to include a provision that borders have to be strictly enforced with both parties being responsible for the integrity of the border.

Mexico should be held accountable for the increased expenditures that any illegals cause the states, cities, counties and Federal government spend to take care of Mexican citizens within the United States.

We have too many examples of businesses and individuals trying to reap the benefits of illegals, and at the same time, expecting the general public to pay the costs of those illegals. It is time that corporate welfare is subjected to the budget axe and asked to pick up its responsibilities.

[KantianBurke]

Solution to Illegals: Credit to Sabertooth.

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Dealing with Illegals doesn't have to be the enormous burden on resources many imagine, not would it have to infringe on civil liberties.

I've posted this on a few threads, but I keep getting requests:

This problem is no harder to solve than wanting to solve it. We can get rid of Illegals rather effectively, by rolling up our sleeves and getting the Illegals to get rid of themselves.

The first order of business, of course, is to enforce existing laws on the books against Illegals and those who employ them. Also, politicians must be held to account when they pander otherwise.

Then...

1: Eliminate all mention of Section 245(i), even if expired, from the US Immigration and Naturalization Code. No more Amnesty, ever.


2: Get legislation through Congress that would enable States to deny goodies to Illegals, a la Prop #187.


3: Outlaw Mexican matricula consular IDs, and kick banks accepting them out of the FDIC. Legal depositors will withdraw from recalcitrant banks.


4: Beef up Border Security with manpower, resources, and a Volunteer Reserve, if necessary. No troops, and no messing with posse comitatus, this should be a civilian effort.


5: Beef up the immigration courts and set deportation hearings for two weeks after apprehension, with no bail.


6: Run sting operations at day laborer sites.


7: Establish two-way communication between the IRS and Border Security, and start apprehending and deporting Illegals using false SS numbers (no, the current overhyped voluntary program doesn't count).


8: Seize the assets of businesses knowingly hiring Illegals under the RICO Act, as they are ongoing criminal enterprises. Prosecute executives who knowingly hire Illegals.


9: Compile biometric information on Illegals, and declare that they will be permanently ineligible for immigration and citizenship.


10: If the United States declares that the above proposals against Illegals will be diligently enforced after a certain date, many Illegals will leave beforehand, and a relatively small number of well-publicized cases of enforcement throughout the Lower 48 will result in millions of Illegals deporting themselves.


11: End the busting of immigration caps by limiting family reunification to spouses and dependent children, and counting them against the caps when they are brought in. Require all future immigrants to declare their future intent to bring in family upon arrival. This way, families can immigrate in a controlled, orderly fashion without the current deceptions being used against the American public. We must have truth in immigration.


12: Outlaw anchor babies, and give the option to the Illegal parent of taking the child with them upon deportation, or putting them up for adoption.


13: Outlaw bilingual ballots, and resume the English-speaking requirements for citizenship.


14: Establish English skills as a prerequisite for future immigrants. Let's start admitting folks who will hit the ground running toward assimilation.


15: Shut off new immigration to nations that offer dual citizenship. Disqualify current immigrants from those nations from future American citizenship.


16: Make Mexico and Central America our cheap import sources of choice with tariffs on manufacturing from other sources, especially China.


17: In return, Mexico must open up to American investment by allowing the sale of real estate to us and guaranteeing property our rights. Getting Mexico to fix its economy is crucial.


18: Establish a guest worker program where an initial bond is posted by the Illegal and his employer, say $500 each, with more withheld from the Illegal's earning, as security for his departure from the US by the specified date. Guest worker visas must be applied for in the workers' countries of origin, and participants are only eligible to be employed by their sponsoring employer. Violation of these terms will render the worker ineligible for any future visas or residence in the US. Any guest worker program can only come after anti-Illegal measures are in place. Handshake promises of future diligence will not be trusted from any politician of either party, including President Bush.
The list above is by no means comprehensive, and can be adopted piecemeal or in a single package. That said, incrementalism is probably going to be the way to go, especially politically.

These measures would provide a little carrot and lots of stick for Illegals already here to get themselves out. Some of them will need to be tested in the courts, which is another reason to adopt them piecemeal, so that an injunction against omnibus legislation can't stall the whole effort.

We ought to be looking initially at easy, politically safe legislation, like the new accounting for family reunification, Border Security/IRS cooperation, English speaking citizenship requirements, and a few others. Our politicians are a trembling, timid bunch, and need to gain a little self-confidence before they'll tackle more difficult issues.

Note a few things that aren't on my list: troops or walls on the border. I think they are a futile diversion from cost effective solutions. The best possible wall at the border is to let foreigners know that we respect our sovereignty, and they had best do the same.

Note that their are no house to house searches.

Note also that I don't call for an immigration moratorium, though others may. I think their position is within the respectable mainstream of a dialogue about immigration, and while it's possible that I might change my mind later, but I am not currently persuaded that an outright moratorium is or will be necessary.

The main problem is multimillion-strong mass of Illegals, and the secondary problem is how we currently select legal immigrants for rapid assimilation into American society. I believe my proposals adequately address both situations, but there is certainly room for debate on the back end.

Note also that I have a guest worker program that is actually honest and responsible, and not an Amnesty by another name. My program would ensure that law-abiding foreigners are background-checked before entry, rather than rewarding lawbreaking Illegals after the fact.

All of the above could be adopted while allowing politicians so-inclined to chant the "compassionate conservatism" mantra.

A few final thoughts...

My proposals will cost money and require an expansion of the federal government in certain areas. However, this expense and expansion is all well within the legitimate, Constitutional responsibilities of the federal government. There will be a greater expense initially, as we ramp up to deal with the backlog of Illegals, but a number of my proposals are at least partially self-funding. Also, success in these endeavors will eventually reduce the need for them, and as many Illegals would leave on their own.

In contrast, there would be also be an increased expense and expansion of the government if there is an Amnesty, as checking backgrounds and processing 8 to 12 million Illegals wouldn't be cheap. However, such increases and expansions would only serve to reward the lawlessness of Illegals and the cowardice of politicians, thereby encouraging more of the same in both, unless there were also enforcement proposals like mine in effect for the American Interior.

But, if we strengthened and enforced our laws consistently within our borders, then we don't need the phantom solution of Amnesty anyway.