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Those who immigrated fairly or legally should be the first to recieve any consideration for citizenship. To identify a guess worker so that you can now tax, and track their presence is a plus. This does not mean they automaticly get citizenship or SS or anything that this country on the state or the federal level has for those who do what is right. To solve the 8 million problem, we will have to be creative and just.

As far as the nation being in a founding or established state, I have to disagree. We (America) are oh so young in the global history of governments and nations. Problem is you can't tell Americans that or you can't usually get them to see from the angle most foreigners see it from. To most in the Arab world we are but a babe or an infant in the spectrum of time. Europe is no different either. Just try and keep the open mind you have shown you have and watch....things will work out for the best for all. Bush is sticking his neck out to solve a problem that many only tiptoe around for fear of isolating their base. If republicans stay home over this issue then they desire the next 8 years of extreme liberalism that will no doubtfully be shoved down their throats

Thanks for the reply!

I have a question for you. I don't believe in shooting people coming over the border ---- for example Patrick Buchanan was making a point one time --- he illegally crossed into Mexico through a hole in the fence and came back over to the USA. Had there been a Mexican agent --- it would have been wrong for him to shoot him --- however --- did Buchanan break Mexican law? Do they have a right to refuse him a visa for what he did? Or because he chose to break the law then did he have a right to do whatever else he might have like while over there in Mexico?