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To: arasina
I saw that and immediately remember what I'd read in that book. Ramzi Yousef is in US custody and so we've gotten lots of information from him and his participation in the WTC bombing in 1993, as well as planning other terrorist attacks across the world.
51 posted on 01/06/2004 5:36:44 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
MODNOTE: The prisoners in Guantanamo served their God and Country, as best they could, but the U.S. says the whole world must serve its "God and Country," only.

Is it any wonder Americans are considered very ugly, and even evil around the world? The U.S. is indeed acting like an "evil empire," and empire-building is what the Bush Dynasty is all about.

The Bush Dynasty supported Adolph Hitler during WWII, and Nazi refugees subsequently worked with George Bush Sr. and other U.S. government agents, to build the CIA into the White imperialist organization it is, today. The Bush Dynasty is doing, today, what it eventually accused Germany and Japan of attempting, to accomplish during WWII,i.e., to rule the world.

All these racist antics remind of all those racist James Bond books and movies where the English are always saving the world from being dominated by other than the United Kingdom and United States. It is any surprise that the
U.S. and U.K. are working hand-in-hand, to conquer and rule the world,
today?

It is so plain to see except, to those whose "God and Country" is the devil himself.

paz-amor, ruben


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Guantanamo Captives' Families Wait

Fri Sep 13, 9:43 AM ET

By PAISLEY DODDS, Associated Press Writer

For relatives of the 598 detainees at this remote outpost life goes on —
without their men, and without any idea how long their husbands and sons
will be imprisoned.


Rasul Kudayev's fiancee in Russia married someone else. Mamdouh Habib's wife
and four children fend for themselves in Australia. Mourad Benchellali's
father in France wonders if he will see — or hear from — his son again.

"The detainees' families are going on with their lives during the day, but
at night they're dreaming of their sons," said Najeeb al-Nauimi, a lawyer
and former Qatari justice minister who argues the detainees should be
returned to their home countries.

The detainees come from 43 nations and are suspected of links to the
al-Qaida terror network and Afghanistan ( news - web sites)'s fallen Taliban
regime. The first of the men were flown to this desolate U.S. military base
in Cuba in January.

After eight months, they have not been charged or allowed to see lawyers.

The detainees can communicate with relatives only through mail delivered by
the U.S. Postal Service or the International Committee of the Red Cross,
which is the only independent group allowed to see the suspects.

Chellali Benchellali, reached by telephone at his home in Venissieux,
France, said he and his wife have stopped getting cards from their son
Mourad, one of at least six French prisoners at Guantanamo.

Mourad told his parents last year he was leaving to "learn about religion"
in Arab countries. Then they received a postcard saying he was at
Guantanamo.

"His morale was low, he said in the postcard," Benchellali said. Since then,
"it's been silence."

Uncertainty is taking its toll on both the families and detainees. Four
detainees tried to kill themselves in July and August, said Army Lt. Col.
Joe Hoey.

The families were not notified of the attempts: "That is not within our
radar scope," Capt. Al Shimkus, a surgeon at the base, said Thursday.

He said 57 detainees suffer from psychological disorders, including
post-traumatic stress disorder, including 30 that are on medication to fight
depression and anxiety.

Al-Nauimi, speaking by telephone from Australia, said he has copies of 80
postcards the men wrote to their families.

"Some of the detainees have told their families they won't be writing
anymore and will see them in heaven," said al-Nauimi. "One man told his
family that guards had told him he would be buried in Guantanamo."

The family of Rasul Kudayev has moved on in his absence. His mother, Fatimat
Tikayev, has taken a new job as a nurse. She said her son's fiancee married
another man.

Tikayev, who lives in the southern Russia city of Khasanya, said her son
went to Kyrgyzstan to become a wrestler in 1999. She was reached by
telephone from Moscow, along with her son's friend, Zeytun Sultanov, who
said Kudayev went to the former Soviet republic to escape the draft.

"Rasul didn't want to serve even in the Russian army because he didn't
accept violence or military uniforms," his mother said.

Sultanov said his friend "always wanted to study abroad" and that "America
was his highest dream."

While some families hold out hope for America's judicial system, others have
taken their cases to other courts.

The lawyer for a British Taliban suspect urged a panel of British judges
Tuesday in London to order his country's government to intervene.

Attorney Nicholas Blake said Britain was obligated by its commitment to
human rights to urge the United States to either release Ferroz Abbasi, 22,
or charge him and give him access to a lawyer.

"Guantanamo is a sort of legal black hole," Judge Robert Carnwath said after
Blake described detainees' lack of access to the courts.

In Australia, meanwhile, Maha Habib is watching her children grow up without
their father, Mamdouh Habib, 47, who was captured by U.S. forces in Pakistan
in October on suspicion of links to al-Qaida. His wife denies the
allegation.

A postcard sent to the couple's eldest son, Ahmed, listed Habib's detainee
designation as JJJFFA. With an 80-cent stamp, it was mailed to Australia by
U.S. officials in Washington.

The only other contact Maha Habib has had with her husband — an Australian
who also holds Egyptian citizenship — was a letter sent via the Red Cross in
April.

Habib has told Australian media that her husband's imprisonment is "taking
its toll" on the couple's four children. Ahmed recently completed his final
exams, but her youngest son cries constantly.

Short letters from several Kuwaiti detainees made available to The
Associated Press express a strong belief in their innocence and a hope of
freedom.

"Be delighted because God's relief is imminent," reads a June 19 letter
25-year-old Fawzi al-Oda sent to his family.

Fawzi's father, Khaled, said he has received five letters since his son's
detention in Guantanamo. "He always says that he is fine and asks us to pray for him. He is also confident of his innocence, and so are we."






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81 posted on 01/06/2004 10:24:15 PM PST by kcvl
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