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To: Huck
Depends what you mean by change. If they want to increase legal limits, ok by me. But the entire notion that we pass laws and then embrace the lawbreakers is foreign to me, no pun intended. A sovereign nation has a right and duty to protect its borders. That's why we have limits on immigration. We are unable to assimilate 10-12 million illegal aliens every decade or so, on top of legal immigration. We need to tighten the borders, and if additional immigration beyond current legal limits are desired, then Congress can do that. But right now, we have chaos and anarchy on our borders. I also don't think Vicente Fox's desire to export his poor is beneficial to our nation, either.
13 posted on 01/06/2004 12:37:37 PM PST by holdonnow
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To: holdonnow
I think the assenine thing is to say that any change is assenine, when I think some change appears to be in order. If we want a more lenient policy, laws should reflect that. If we want tighter policy, ditto. The law should match the desired policy. Whatever that is. Anyway, I just don't have much respect at all for Hannity as a thinker. Come to think of it, I have none. I was just making a snide comment. Goofing off on the job.
15 posted on 01/06/2004 12:42:06 PM PST by Huck (This space available--monthly rates---great exposure)
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To: holdonnow
Depends what you mean by change.

Precisely. And from where I'm sitting the only change that makes sense is to put the kabosh on ALL immigration - both illegal and legal - for at least a decade. (This would obviously involve placing the National Guard on our borders). We just can't sustain the current rate and number of 3rd-worlders entering our nation, and we need time (and a lot of it) to Americanize the ones that are already here. If we don't, we're begging for a dilution of our unique American culture that we'll never be able to recover from.

20 posted on 01/06/2004 12:56:46 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: holdonnow
"If they want to increase legal limits, ok by me. But the entire notion that we pass laws and then embrace the lawbreakers is foreign to me..."

Exactly...although the way 50% of the population continues to embrace Bill Clinton and his co-conspirators makes it easier to understand how warped our culture has become.

FReegards...MUD

22 posted on 01/06/2004 1:03:14 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: holdonnow
What you said, except I would reduce legal immigration for about 3-5 years to expedite the assimilation.
46 posted on 01/06/2004 1:46:33 PM PST by A Navy Vet (The Nanny State: from cradle to grave...for your protection...freedom be damned.)
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To: holdonnow
Depends what you mean by change. If they want to increase legal limits, ok by me. But the entire notion that we pass laws and then embrace the lawbreakers is foreign to me, no pun intended. A sovereign nation has a right and duty to protect its borders.

Unless you are of the DemonRAT persuasion...then you're an "IMPERIALIST" if you believe that!

That's why we have limits on immigration.

Again, unless you are of the DemonRAT persuasion, and live in these border States...then you are looking for that "Voter Base" so you can rob the rest of the US in apportionment and elections!

We are unable to assimilate 10-12 million illegal aliens every decade or so, on top of legal immigration. We need to tighten the borders, and if additional immigration beyond current legal limits are desired, then Congress can do that.

Can I get an AMEN?!

But right now, we have chaos and anarchy on our borders. I also don't think Vicente Fox's desire to export his poor is beneficial to our nation, either.

No, it is the Castro "Boatlift" all over again! Why should Fox do anything different than the PRI has done before? Better to steal as much Dinero as you can, and Let "Uncle Gringo" to the Norte deal with all those pesky issues like "quality of Life", and "healthcare"!

Unfortunately, it seems GWB is more infatuated with his old friend Vincente than he is interested in sealing our sieve of a border to Preserve and Protect this Nation!

I just hope the next attack doesn't originate in Canada or Mexico...I'm not sure the President could withstand the heat from his policies apparent failure.

BTW, I am honored to be able to reply to the great F. Lee! Kudos and Dittos, sir!

61 posted on 01/06/2004 2:26:26 PM PST by Itzlzha (The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote!)
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To: holdonnow
We need to tighten the borders, and if additional immigration beyond current legal limits are desired, then Congress can do that. But right now, we have chaos and anarchy on our borders. I also don't think Vicente Fox's desire to export his poor is beneficial to our nation, either. To answer you question; most polls show that the majority of Americans are emphatically opposed to increases in any form of immigration. So increased legal limits are not desired by the people. However, they are desired by other, usually 'elite' groups such as; immigration lawyers, ethnic interest groups, the Democratic Party, the GOP leadership, some Churches, academics, and businesses that use alot of unskilled labor.
63 posted on 01/06/2004 2:38:40 PM PST by Aetius
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To: holdonnow
And you are right about Fox and his agenda, but the argument can be made that the mass emigration of people out of his country is also not good for Mexico in the long-run. It serves to reduce pressure on that failed country. It allows the leaders to avoid the necessary reforms that could lift the resource-rich Mexico out of third world status.
64 posted on 01/06/2004 2:41:32 PM PST by Aetius
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