Posted on 01/05/2004 5:36:35 PM PST by Pubbie
Edited on 01/05/2004 6:05:54 PM PST by Lead Moderator. [history]
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President Bush will propose immigration law changes to allow workers from Mexico to enter the United States if they have jobs waiting for them, officials said Monday in previewing an election-year measure intended to bolster support among Hispanic voters.
Advocacy groups were invited to the White House on Wednesday to hear details of the program.
"The president has long talked about the importance of having an immigration policy that matches willing workers with willing employers," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said. "It's important for America to be a welcoming society. We are a nation of immigrants, and we're better for it."
Immigration advocacy groups characterized Bush's move as a politically drawn effort to curry favor with Hispanics, a potent political force, particularly in key states like Florida, California and border states. Two sources speaking on condition of anonymity said Bush would outline a set of principles rather than a detailed piece of legislation, and that the policy statement would draw on bills already pending in Congress.
"It looks very much like a political effort and what they do with these `principles' is going to determine whether this is really a policy initiative or not," said Cecilia Munoz, vice president for policy at the National Council of La Raza. "The Latino community knows the difference between political posturing and a real policy debate."
She said the initiative was crafted by Bush's political strategist, Karl Rove, and that the immigration policy community was excluded from the deliberations.
"We know of no one in the immigration policy community, business groups or Latino groups who has been consulted," she said.
*Children unlawfully in the USA are criminals **Kindly point out where the law says that children of undocumented immigrants are 'criminals.'
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Criminal alien:
"I crawled across the border of my own free will to rob and pillage. Catch me if you can!"
LOL, If he was dead set on amnesty he would have done it already, after all, he doesn't need an act of Congress, he has the authotity to grant amnesty to who ever he wants with a stroke of a pen. But don't let these little facts get in the way of your paranoia.
"However, the wording of the bill that Bush's operatives twisted arms on capital hill for passage most definitely did apply to illegal aliens but you had to read the fine print to find it."
Would you mind posting this fine print "Bush's Operatives" twisted arms to get into a bill that never saw his desk?
He had several chances to answer. But ran away. I guess he needed the kick from you, eh?
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Who made you the arbitor of the questions?
It's not irrelevant, just incredibly painful for the immigrant jihadists to answer, as I've learned tonight. Thanks!
As I've said, Joe made two passes on answering tonight. Now you needed to bring it up again. I'm sure he just needed more time....LOL!
If he was dead set on amnesty he would have done it already
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The only thing I have requested from you tonight is to "recite" anything Bush has said in public that backs up your speculation, and you couldn't.
Sabertooth you are engaged in hyperbowl and you know it
No, a criminal must have the capacity to consent to the crime and know that a crime is being committed. A child who is brought across the border who did not consent to being brought, who doesn't know right from wrong, who doesn't know a misdemeanor from a visa stamp, is not a criminal. Here in America we do brand toddlers as criminals and send them to prison.
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Not True. Amnesties for immigration violators involve a change in our immigration laws which falls under the purview of Congress...not the presidency.
Would you mind posting this fine print "Bush's Operatives" twisted arms to get into a bill that never saw his desk?
It's not my job to do your homework. You have already proven on this thread on elsewhere to be pretty much in the dark on immigration matters. Perhaps you should spend less time on those Bush Worshipping threads.
Just like he hasn't enforced our laws on murder either, should we impeach him now?
Cmon Sabertooth, you can do better than that
Who made you the arbitor of the questions? It's not irrelevant, just incredibly painful for the immigrant jihadists to answer, as I've learned tonight. Thanks! As I've said, Joe made two passes on answering tonight. Now you needed to bring it up again. I'm sure he just needed more time....LOL!
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