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To: robertpaulsen
I know all about the incident, and I must say, I find it very hard to believe that my statement is the MOST ignorant thing you've EVER seen. Oh really? You must lead quite a sheltered life...

But to the point, I cannot fathom your preference for such rampant, overzealous, law enforcement...
44 posted on 01/05/2004 3:51:19 PM PST by ladyrustic (seek truth, beauty, goodness)
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To: ladyrustic
"You'd rather be randomly searched, without probable cause, on a floor by a screaming, pistol waving, finger-on-the-trigger LEO, than have a joint in someone's locker at a high school?"

So, you know "all about" the incident, yet you make the above statement?

"randomly searched"

The students were not randomly searched. The raid was set for a specific time in a specific hallway to isolate the suspected students. 107 students out of a school population of 2750 is a targeted search, not a random one.

"without probable cause"

Probable cause or a search warrant is not required for school searches. The USSC affirmed this in New Jersey v. T.L.O., 469 U.S. 325 (1985). Only "reasonable suspicion" is required, which they had.

"finger-on-the-trigger LEO"

This is the first I heard of it. Where did you read this? Or did you just make it up?

Of the 14 officers, I believe I read where three had guns drawn "at the ready position". If a gun was pointed at a student, I assume there was a good reason (for example, a student reaching for his pocket instead of showing his hands)-- if not, then they should be punished.

An investigation is underway. Care to wait for the results, or should we just go ahead and consider everyone (except the students, of course) guily as charged by ladyrustic?

"than have a joint in someone's locker"

The school officials were not searching for " a joint in someone's locker". As a matter of fact, no lockers were searched.

They were looking for evidence of DRUG DEALING that was going on in the school hallways. Don't you care that drugs were being dealt to school children, in school hallways, while school is in session?

Nothing in your statement above even approximates the truth. If it's not the most ignorant statement I've read, it ranks right up there.

78 posted on 01/06/2004 8:31:17 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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