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To: Smogger
Smogger, No, I believe Al-Zawahri is alive. I never said he was dead, somewhat of a straw-mans argument used by you there. (there seems to have been more sightings, montly audio's, etc) of him. But, it is Bin Laden those in Al Qeada want the world to believe is still alive. I just feel, so much as been lost for Bin Laden that he would have surly made at least on definite audio tape or better yet video to prove he is alive for his followers.

Lets be clear. Bin Laden never thought the USA would take Afghanistan as easily as we did. He never thought we would have such influence in Pakistan as we do now. He never thought we would control Iraq as we do now. Therefore these have been great defeats for him. One wouldn't sit back and just allow this without at least once in 3 years proving he is still in the fight. I totally agree that him being dead or alive hasn't been proven one way or the other.

And this is why Bush and Rummy have said. "if he's alive, we will get him".....enough said. But that does not then disallow others to suspect that Bin Laden is already dead...because of the lack of evidence he is alive and the lack of a coordinated defensive or offensive put out by Al Qeada since Dec of 2001.

As for Bin Laden changing his appearance...until one of these bad guys around the world is taken alive and shown to have a dramatic change of appearance I think that is all hollywood BS clouding peoples minds. His appearance won't have change much even if he is alive.

As for your comment that you haven't put out a video so you must be dead. (childish argument at best with that. No need to respond)

93 posted on 01/05/2004 11:14:17 AM PST by eseales
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To: eseales
blah blah blah.. Even Saddam was smart enough to to make some attempt to change his appearance by growing a beard. I don't recall Saddam releasing any video's of himself holding the NY Times.

Only an idiot would release a videotape of himself if he had a 25 million dollar bounty on his head, and was being hunted by the world's only superpower.

"Here I am. This is what I look like now. Maybe if I pan the camera around you can see where I am at."

Duh.

Bin Laden those in Al Qeada want the world to believe is still alive

Why exactly does AQ want the "world" to believe he is alive? His followers already believe he's alive, and that's all that matters. The audiotapes aren't to prove if he's alive or not they are calls to action.

96 posted on 01/05/2004 11:24:24 AM PST by Smogger
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To: eseales
"Smogger, No, I believe Al-Zawahri is alive. I never said he was dead, somewhat of a straw-mans argument used by you there. (there seems to have been more sightings, montly audio's, etc) of him. But, it is Bin Laden those in Al Qeada want the world to believe is still alive. I just feel, so much as been lost for Bin Laden that he would have surly made at least on definite audio tape or better yet video to prove he is alive for his followers.
Lets be clear. Bin Laden never thought the USA would take Afghanistan as easily as we did. He never thought we would have such influence in Pakistan as we do now. He never thought we would control Iraq as we do now. Therefore these have been great defeats for him. One wouldn't sit back and just allow this without at least once in 3 years proving he is still in the fight. I totally agree that him being dead or alive hasn't been proven one way or the other.

And this is why Bush and Rummy have said. "if he's alive, we will get him".....enough said. But that does not then disallow others to suspect that Bin Laden is already dead...because of the lack of evidence he is alive and the lack of a coordinated defensive or offensive put out by Al Qeada since Dec of 2001.

As for Bin Laden changing his appearance...until one of these bad guys around the world is taken alive and shown to have a dramatic change of appearance I think that is all hollywood BS clouding peoples minds. His appearance won't have change much even if he is alive.

As for your comment that you haven't put out a video so you must be dead. (childish argument at best with that. No need to respond)"

So you are saying that the most wanted man on the face of the planet would want to put out a video and remind all of those who are after him that he is still alive and has not been captured? If you were the most wanted person on Earth would you put out a video?


132 posted on 01/05/2004 7:40:38 PM PST by mjaneangels@aolcom
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