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To: LibertarianInExile
"Your alumni writers have been puffing PAC teams up the AP polls since Warren Harding was president".

2003 is now the fifth time (1954,1974,1978,1991,2003) a Pac-10 school has won a split national title in football. And 2003 is the FIRST TIME they won the AP poll in those five title years. Each of the other four, the Coaches (who generally know better) voted the Pac-10 team #1, while the writers voted some other team #1, such as in 1978, when USC and Alabama both finished 12-1, USC played Alabama that year, in Alabama, and kicked their ass 24-14, I believe. They were up 24-0 at one point. Facts to a liberal (and many times, to a libertarian) can be problematic.
74 posted on 01/05/2004 8:14:05 AM PST by raptor29
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To: raptor29
I won't begin to argue with such a complete refutation of my comments...oh, wait, it isn't one. I said the AP ratings of PAC teams are inflated. That they have finally won one outright does not diminish the truth of my statement--even the best polish won't shine $#!#. And do not begin to state that the coaches' poll is any less tainted than the AP--that's why both polls are still around, and that's why the BCS is around, because people doubt both polls.

You can point to exceptions and claim cross-conference bowl game victories all you want, but only playoffs will prove you right or wrong. Until they happen, I'll continue to state it and you will be unable to effectively deny my assertion that the PAC is a wuss, overrated football conference. Maybe not as wuss when compared to the CUSA or the WAC...but not by much.
95 posted on 01/05/2004 8:58:43 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (When taglines are outlawed only outlaws will have taglines.)
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