Help Block The Rove Amnesty Plan In Congress, Contact These Congressmen

Pubbie | 1/04/04 | Pubbie

[xJones]

Quite simply, we the young taxpaying, conservative citizens of the United States of America no longer wish to bear the burden supporting the medical, educational, and now possibly the retirement benefits awarded to ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!

All right! Why should you pay for illegals who aren't paying a darn thing for you or your country? A real country has real boundaries, right? Or else what is it?

[AmericanInTokyo]

Thank goodness the self-appointed thought police did not show up on this FR thread yet (to my knowledge) with a stupid little disclaimer and warning to two-year olds in an effort to stifle debate on this issue of IMMIGRATION and turn Free Republic itself into a quadrant of "political correctness" so that gauge our every word, striving for mediocrity, and so we don't offend anyone who has thin skin on the issue of ILLEGAL ALIENS.

Go for it, thanks for organizing everyone.

[AmericanInTokyo]

I take back what I just wrote. Just read the whole thread.

[getgoing]

bump...

Starting my calls up again today. First off, The Fort Worth Star Telegram to cancel my subscription - headline front page today - Bush Plan could help immigrant workers.

[Richard-SIA]

(Sigh) I guess my English has become unintelligible of late.

My MAIN point was that people must contact their LOCAL reps.
 "I'm told that, generally speaking, most members of Congress read their faxes, and take phone calls."
Only if you are a constituent. Otherwise they ignore your message, or forward it as I tried to explain.

Not to worry, I will put together my annual vanity post explaining this, again.

[God is good]

Think about it, all politicians absolutely MUST know who is and isn't going to vote for them.

This is the only way. If you do not promise to withold your vote, you have failed just as Bush and the Republicans have failed America. If you do not promise to withhold your vote, you will be a part of the erasing of America's borders.

[norton]

"Since when is the Compost a reliable source in FR?"

Since the whole freaking news world is reporting the same thing.

GWB WILL, repeat - WILL, lose my vote if he goes forward with this.

And I am probably on the "Bushbot" list in several sectors of FR. The guy's done great, done everything I'd ask for, until now. If we are capable of defining Iraq as a significant threat to our security we MUST be able to admit that mexico is as great a threat or more so.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Both Bush and Ridge have flatly denied any plans for a massive amnesty.

There was a time in this country when we did not have this immigration problem, there were two major differences between then and now.

• 1) Massive welfare entitlement programs.

• 2) Mexican migrant workers had the ability to come, work, and go home.

We took away their ability to do that, they opted to stay for fear that they would not be able to get back in, and because the cost of coming in illegally became too high. So now they come, they stay, work, and send money home.

Given a choice, people would rather return home, so if what Bush is doing will give us the ability to A) document incoming workers, and B) keep tabs on their employers, his plan will be a good thing.

[Mamzelle]

re: You lose credibility when you "pester" them about situations that do not actually exist. )))

If we would indeed lose credibility, why would that bother you? I'd think it would delight you, and you would be egging us on.

Methinks you posture.

[RiflemanSharpe]

Emailing now

[Mamzelle]

Rush has been pretty quiet on illegal immigrants throughout his radio career--I think he hangs with the crowd that requires plentiful servants, and probably doesn't mow his own grass, either.

[Don Joe]

Bush and Rove support this? Oh, well. Nobody's perfect.

I hope you're being sarcastic! Reducing this abomination to the "nobody's perfect" category is jaw-dropping.

Hopefully, this can get stopped in Congress. Same goes for the Assult Weapons Ban renewal in 2004.

Hopefully my dog will learn to deposit gold nuggets in the yard instead of his typical stinkpiles. I'd say the odds of that happening are about equal to the two items you mentioned.

[Don Joe]

Their are possibly a few anti-immigration Democrats on the committee, it's good to identify them.

Two things: first, it's not "immigration" that's the problem, it's illegal "migration".

Second, no democrat will pay more than "ear service" to our complaints, because they -- unlike President Rove -- realize full well that the vast majority of the "Illegal Vote" will accrue to their benefit. IOW, as far as they're concerned, the more the merrier.

[Don Joe]

If the plan isn't as bad as the article says, then I don't see that we've lost anything by pestering our Congressmen - it's good to keep them on their toes.

A cold dose of reality: President Rove is convinced that he (and his proxy in the White House) will gain "the hispanic vote", and -- even more than that -- their financiers at the Country Club are insistent in their demands for "cheap labor".

And as far as the "other party", they realize (accurately), that the more illegals in the country, the more they benefit at the polling booth, thanks to socialist "entitlements", efficient machine politics, and most of all, the travesty of "motor voter", made perfect by drivers-license-enabled illegals, courtesy of the Matricula Card, and California's free pass (which Ahnold campaigned against, but now suports, suprise surprise).

In short, the fix is in, on a near cosmic level.

[Don Joe]

I'm a little suspect of "activism" that only includes pestering Republicans......because you say the democrats won't listen.

Me too -- because it seems pretty clear that Republicans won't listen either.

It's sad when you've got to -- in vain -- "pester" your own party to try to wake them from their money-soaked stupor.

[Don Joe]

Ridge answered:

"The bottom line is, as a country we have to come to grips with the presence of 8 to 12 million illegals, afford them some kind of legal status some way, but also as a country decide what our immigration policy is and then enforce it.

That's precisely the same brain-dead "logic" they used about 18 years ago to justify the first "one-time" amnesty. "Let's deal with the reality, let's just this ONE time deal with it, and then strictly enforce our immigration laws."

Yeah, right.

Those laughably few (in the current context) illegals -- a few hundred thousand -- quickly morphed into several million once they brought in their relatives. Now, after 18 years of "strict enforcment", we're sold the same bill of goods? A one-time amnesty (a rose by any name), and then strict-enforcement?

Oh, please. Someone may have just fallen off the turnip truck, but it ain't me, babe, and it ain't anyone I know, and it ain't 80% of the population either, according to Zogby.

If they push this travesty through, it will be proof of one thing: this country is run by rulers, not "representatives". We are subjects, not "the owners of the country".

Welcome to Numerica. Or rather, Hola, Amexica!

[Don Joe]

The only consistently reliable way of getting your government's ear is to pay for it -- and pay generously.

Want to be heard? Then open the checkbook. Open it wide. once those six-digit checks start flowing, you'll have all the government you can afford.

What? You can't afford that kind of money? Tough break, kid. Neither can I.

[hedgetrimmer]

Many of the proposed actions are coming from the summit of the Americas, another of which will be held in Monterrey Mexico next week.

Example from the last summit, with the United States organizing this plan:

Migration

Recognizing the positive aspects and benefits of orderly migration in countries of origin, transit and destination as a factor contributing to economic growth and national and regional development:

Support initiatives designed to strengthen linkages among migrant communities abroad and their places of origin and promote cooperative mechanisms that simplify and speed up the transfer of migrant remittances and substantially reduce the costs of sending them;

Support voluntary initiatives designed by communities or individuals for the use of funds in investment and productive projects benefitting the general welfare in communities of origin;

Promote the discussion of the migration phenomenon at the hemispheric level with due regard for its multi-dimensional nature and regional differences and, in so doing, consider the inclusion of the topic of migration in discussions on trade and economic integration;

Support programs of cooperation in immigration procedures for cross-border labor markets and the migration of workers, both in countries of origin and destination, as a means to enhance economic growth in full cognizance of the role that cooperation in education and training can play in mitigating any adverse consequences of the movement of human capital from smaller and less developed states;

Strive to ensure that migrants have access to basic social services, consistent with each country's internal legal framework;

Create and harmonize statistical information systems and foster the sharing of information and best practices through the use of new information and communications technologies, with the aim of promoting the modernization of migration management;