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To: Cultural Jihad
Here's a repeat: "One group is those who really have no other goal other than to try to fracture conservatives and turn them on each other."

Here's the context:

"One group is those who really have no other goal other than to try to fracture conservatives and turn them on each other. One group is those who think that those most concerned with immigration are really just bigots and want to shout them down."

There are sincere people who support the breaking of laws, whether it be drugs laws or gun ordinances. On the other hand, those who want to humanely find a solution to undocumented immigration are not advocating lawlessness but rather accepting the geographic, political, cultural, demographic, and socio-economic reality which is our common southern border, and look for a workable solution from Washington.

Well, there's a fair and balanced summary.

What does your first sentence have to do with your second?
What does your first sentence have to do with Illegal Aliens, at all?

The RKBA and the WoD threads are distinct from the Illegal Alien threads, so it's probably best not to confuse them.

Those who advocate against illegal immigration have an extra responsibility to ensure no one uses FreeRepublic to foist their calls for violence (as in "shoot shovel and shutup") or bigotry or dehumanization against any race, nationality, culture, or language. That self-policing has been sorely lacking in the past.

No, there is no one group that has any "extra responsibility;" civil, factual debate is everyone's burden, though it's understandable that some might prefer otherwise.

I would not, for example, suggest that those whose habit it is to troll on immigration-related threads hoping to move them to the backroom have any "extra responsibility" not to use Democrat talking points in constructing their ad hominems, regardless of the false impression their conduct and accusations leave with the uninformed that FR or the GOP are full of dehumanizing bigots, and regardless of how sorely lacking their own self-policing has been in the past.


85 posted on 01/05/2004 5:03:09 AM PST by Sabertooth (Have a Happy New Year, Freepers)
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To: Sabertooth
"No, there is no one group that has any "extra responsibility;""

On this, I disagree, and this goes beyond Free Republic.

Any movement has the added responsibility of being somewhat self-policing. Those who make illegal immigration a top priority do need to call out those who either hold the same position (or pretend to hold the same position) who start advocating violence or racism. It may not be fair, but it is reality. Tolerance of unacceptable views within a particular political faction injures that faction. That is just the way the world works.

88 posted on 01/05/2004 5:16:33 AM PST by Lead Moderator
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