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To: SandRat
Well, in both cases they are immigrants. The term "illegals" is a pejorative term only used against undocumented immigrants and not jaywalkers, highway speeders, and seat belt shirkers, even though they are all midemeanor offenses. Remember that Jews in Nazi Germany were legally deemed "illegals," too.
190 posted on 01/05/2004 5:08:00 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Flag on the play.

Comparing the calling of someone who has violated our immigration law an illegal is not comparable to anything the Nazis did. Even attempting to make that analogy is an insult to all the victims of the Third Reich. That would be an example of some of the stuff we need to leave out of these threads in order for them to avoid turning into giant pissing contests (pardon my French).

198 posted on 01/05/2004 5:50:22 PM PST by Lead Moderator
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To: Cultural Jihad
Well, in both cases they are immigrants. The term "illegals" is a pejorative term only used against undocumented immigrants ...

Let's see if I have this straight?

No matter how someone came to this country, through proper channels or sneaking across the border in the still of night or over staying a legal Visa they are an immigrant and to say someone is illegal is pejorative and judgmental; right?

First, I would suggest that you check the immigration laws and how they define what is an immigrant and an illegal alien.
Secondly, it is the purpose of the rule of law to be pejorative and judgmental for behavior that violates the law. Clearly there are varying levels of law violation ranging from simple misdemeanors (with multiple classes) to felonies (with multiple classes ranging up to capital offenses.

Violators of the law must be charged and judged based on the type of offense and the level and class of offense. The law is the law, and we have process in place in this republic to change the law when the citizenry decides that a change is necessary, but until them the law and the definitions of the offenses remains the law and must be enforced. There is an old adage "don't make a law if you aren't going to enforce it."

Please lay off the NAZI analogies it only diminishes the talking point of the user of that term.

201 posted on 01/05/2004 6:07:12 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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