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1 posted on 01/04/2004 1:52:27 PM PST by quidnunc
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{For serious minds only!})

Umm... Ahem... That, umm, eliminates just about all of us.
2 posted on 01/04/2004 1:57:08 PM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (DU : Free Republic :: Oklahoma : Texas (I am in so much trouble))
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In a nutshell, anti-Israelism is merely a cover for anti-Semitism. And the underlying ideology is basically Communist: hatred of America, hatred of the west, hatred of Judaism and Christianity.
4 posted on 01/04/2004 2:03:19 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Bookmarked - for later reading, I'll see if I have a serious mind!
6 posted on 01/04/2004 2:05:17 PM PST by little jeremiah
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France and Germany criticize the US as imperialistic while they themselves maneuver to create their own Euro empire with themselves at the head. Their criticism is pure fraud calculated to advance their own predatory agenda.
7 posted on 01/04/2004 2:19:56 PM PST by Free Vulcan
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Interesting article.
But your link doesn't go to the article.
8 posted on 01/04/2004 2:38:04 PM PST by polemikos (Anti-reason leftist howler monkeys are painful to the senses.)
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A serious minded BTTT!
9 posted on 01/04/2004 2:49:38 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (I take great pride in my humility.)
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Long read but excellent post. Strange no mention of China except for their Tibetan adventure, or the Russians except for Chechnya. I still think that those two nations are mainly behind the negative emotions people have against both the US and Israel. (Western Europe has always needed to folow someone - anyone - even France and Germany. Germany is following their reunited Eastern half, while France is following Germany.)
10 posted on 01/04/2004 2:54:50 PM PST by 11B3 (Democratic Socialists of America: 78 members in Congress. Treason? YES.)
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No Western European country has been attacked since 1945.

Depends how you look at it I suppose. France had its own troubles in Vietnam. The UK has fought an on again off again war in Northern Ireland. Spain has its ETA problem and other Western European nations have had their own battles with terrorism in that time frame. France fought Algeria. UK fought Argentina following Argentina's invasion of the Falklands. Plus W Europe had the Balkans conflict going on right in its backyard for quite a while.

11 posted on 01/04/2004 3:09:12 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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Serious minds only : Does that mean folks who will agree with everything you believe is true ?
12 posted on 01/04/2004 3:34:25 PM PST by genefromjersey (So little time - so many FLAMES to light !!)
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"Jews want to sully our racial purity"

You have to question any people or persons who think those of a religion are a race.
14 posted on 01/04/2004 3:43:42 PM PST by JSteff
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"The Germans will never forgive the Jews for Auschwitz."

That's amoung the most cutting things I've ever read. This really was a very serious minded article, far more subtle on these subjects than many other things I've read. But, Commentary is always like that. It's always a good read.
15 posted on 01/04/2004 3:45:33 PM PST by jocon307 ( The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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Add to this mix, a certain international/intercultural penis envy, and you voila, you have most European anti-Americanism.
16 posted on 01/04/2004 3:50:51 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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What I admire most about Israel is that in this age of victimization, they refuse to be victims. If they go down, they will go down fighting.
17 posted on 01/04/2004 3:53:00 PM PST by Malesherbes
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DOUBLE PLUS BUMP!!!
22 posted on 01/04/2004 4:32:01 PM PST by eclectic
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I Love living in the Greatest Nation on Earth and in human history. This article reinforces what we have.
23 posted on 01/04/2004 5:03:15 PM PST by Helms (Free Republic = The Best Aphorisms on the Internet)
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Lacking certain murderous elements of the classical type...

Don't you believe it. Those elements are just as much a part of modern anti-Semitism as they ever were. The difference between the Israelis now and their central European predecessors then is that the Israelis shoot back.

24 posted on 01/04/2004 5:11:40 PM PST by Billthedrill
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Much too wordy to say what was said and jumped to too many tangents... guess I'm too stupid for this guy...

25 posted on 01/04/2004 5:29:28 PM PST by hosepipe
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Here the key theme is conspiracy: thus, Jews want to sully our racial purity, or subvert our sacred traditions or, above all, to achieve domination.

The problem is that the author is unable to distinguish between racism, religous conflict, and political opposition. For non-Jews, these are three rather different things.

Some are anti-Semitic on racial grounds, and indeed, this seems to me to be the primary basis for past genocide against Jews. However, I think it is pretty rare, both in Europe and in the US.

Christians and Muslims may see Judaism as a religion that is somewhere between mis-guided and heretical. The former Christian view that Jews were guilty of murdering Christ has fallen out of favor. Muslims now have the more negative view of Judaism, partly because of their inability to separate religion from politics. Hindus, Buhdists, Confucianists, Shinto, agnostics and atheists don't much care one way or the other.

The political category has two dimensions. Some oppose Israel as a state on the grounds that it is racist (giving preferences to matrilineal descendents of Jews) and a theocracy (giving preferences to adherents of Judaism, particularly the Orthodox). Others oppose politically active Jews within their country (US, France, wherever), who strive to use the mechanisms of democracy to muster the foreign policy and defense resources of their country to the aid of Israel.

Of these three, racism is reprehensible, religious conflict is just silly, and political opposition to Israel and its local fan club is a legitimate topic for democratic debate.

27 posted on 01/04/2004 6:47:42 PM PST by Lessismore
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28 posted on 01/04/2004 6:51:38 PM PST by Mrs Zip
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