Your favorite U.S. President

[Doc Savage]

Has to be HItlery Clinton!! Unelected, she single-handledly presided over the debauching of the WH, hung condoms on the National Christmas tree, perpetrated a fraud against the WH tavel office, acted in a conspiracy to kill Vince Foster, attempted to hijack 1/6th of the GNP of this country with her secret anti-medical/anti-pharmaceutical ex-official government group, and acted as the ENABLER for a sexual deviant masquerading as as a politician-husband.

Now what exactly isn't to be praised there!!

[Reader of news]

Vote Republican Party.

[Tigercap]

2-clinton

he started with

257 democratic congressmen finished with 211

58 senators finished with 49

29 govs finished with 20

that is his real legacy.

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Brilliant!

[freebilly]

Eastern Oregon is great. I was thinking of Northwest..., Portland in particular....

[Paul Ross]

WHAT [sic]...WHO is your favorite U.S. President?

One picture is worth a thousand words:

[Tahts-a-dats-ago]

Ronald Reagan and Thomas Jefferson.

[bandleader]

Probably because he was such a good pitcher(Hardy-har-har)!

[Nanodik]

Grover Cleveland

Nice pick. It's good to see someone pick someone with some principles as this thread is becoming a regular whore-fest.

[Reader of news]

I am sorry for using "what".

[freebilly]

ps give western Oregon abd Washington State to Canada. We'll take Alberta and Edmonton....

[koba37]

Favorites:
Reagan
Washington
Jefferson

Despised:
Carter
Clinton
Lincoln (don't fall for the "freed the slaves and kept the union together" ruse)

[Nanodik]

Thomas Jefferson. By FAR.

TJ was a great intellectual and there is no doubt his contribution to the country cannot be minimized but his presidency was marred by controversy. That is not to say he was a bad president (if you measure him against most of the others he looks downright stellar) but I think the life of a politician was not for him. Personally I would put GW above him on the presidents scale and most others below him.

[Xthe17th]

Spleen, Thanks for my new tagline... but Karl Rove is still Greema Wormtongue. I would really like to think that underneath, Dubya is King Theodin... If so, I sure hope Gandalf and Aragorn arrive soon.

[bandleader]

Froma a historical standpoint,I would have to say George Washington because he set such high standards for the office of POTUS and refused to be crowned king.After that,I would put Abraham Lincoln for preserving The Union.Then I would put Thomas Jefferson for his efforts in expanding The United States of America"from sea to shining sea"!!!My next choice would be Theodore Roosevelt for making The United States of America into a world power.FDR for the leadership he displayed during WWII.Ronald Reagan for his restoration of the office of POTUS following the disaster known as Jimmy Cawtah and for his slashing of marginal tax-rates.There could be a change in this order in the offing considering the magnificent achievements and undertakings of George Walker Bush!!!!!!!!!Sorry to be so long-winded!!!!!!!!!!!

[bandleader]

MEGA DITTOS TO THAT!The ONLY thing I don't like about Ronaldus Magnus is his rather unfortunate middle name(Wilson)!!

[bvw]

Cleveland won the popular election for President THREE times. And he could have won a FOURTH against loudmouth Byrant and saved us all from the Prohibtion and War on Drugs, etc. etc. Cleveland was still somewhat popular, and trusted. But given his tenure of so many years, he looked to a peaceful cottage.

Good thing Cleveland lost the middle-term -- for he would never have allowed Hawaii to be forcefully annexed, yet we did need to annex it. See http://www.hawaii-nation.org/betrayal.html

Cleveland's belief in civil service, his expnasion of it has proved not to be a good thing, for it has led to a hyper-constricting Federal bureaucratic tyranny, like biblical Eygpt's that is the devil to throw off. Patronage -- with all its problems -- at least meant that by throwing off the Patron we would throw off his train of bureaucrats and petty tyrannts. Under Civil Service reform, changing the "leader" does not even scrape a fleck off the bureaucracy's behemoth pug.

Still, Cleveland engaged in that reform because of his experience with a very corrput system in NY -- his mistake was a good-hearted and completely understandable one. It wasn't even that big a mistake -- for by his golden ethics, those in government service would be held to a high standard and a very small size, totally restrained in a conservative, limited reach of Constitutional enumerated powers.

[Nanodik]

ps give western Oregon abd Washington State to Canada. We'll take Alberta and Edmonton....

I would like to second that motion!

[bandleader]

We certainly didn't have a POTUS who obeyed his oath between Jan.20th,1993,and Jan.19th,2001!He couldn't even tell the truth when under oath!!In fact,neither he nor his SHREW of a wife would know The Truth if it bit them in the A**!!!!!!!!!!Nuf Said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[stop_fascism]

He had the hotest first lady. That should count for something (another way to drop Clinton to the bottom).

[pageonetoo]

Why don't we have a scroll bar poll?
Ronaldus Magnus will win!