Tomorrow's Jobs

Barron's ^ | 1/5/04 | Gene Epstein

[Texas_Dawg]

THE OLD, TIRED IDEA that America has only a finite number of jobs -- and that we must guard them zealously against raids from cheap foreign labor -- has been making a remarkable comeback. The only difference is that its upside-down view of the economy has plumbed new depths.

[Starwind]

Sure I did. Also said that now that I know it is against FR rules, I will not do it again.

I share my Barron's with people all the time. Didn't realize I couldn't share it via FR, but I do now, so it won't be done again.

Precisley the point. It isn't about FR policy. It's about violating the license rights of the artcle owner - Barron's. You know that but refuse to admit it because you have no respect for anyones property rights - just like your asian handlers.

But you'll continue to give their property away to your 'friends'...such as they are.

You still pretend not to know you were violating a paid subscription license, and persist in thinking you can't hide behind FR guidelines.

Christians and American's both know the difference between truth and lies, we know not to take what isn't ours, and we know to admit when were wrong and stop.

But you lack any such integrity.

[Beck_isright]

LOL, not the way NASA works. I'll probably be on that space shuttle flight (in just about 11 years) and look at the damned thing and say "am I on Eastern airlines redux or what".

[Texas_Dawg]

Your criticism of myself, though misunderstood, was unwarranted. I'm a pure capitalist.

American-supported instruments which seek to expand American trade and increase capitalism around the globe (by removing hindrances to capitalism and economic freedom such as taxes, tariffs, and other trade restrictions) is not "pure capitalism". If you support such instruments, then yes, you are a pure capitalist, and I was incorrect in my criticism.

[Beck_isright]

I support all such instruments; with those nations that do the same in return. I do not believe in giving away the golden goose. And I actually think that the folly of thinking that you can "internationalize" capitalism will be our downfall because we do not operate in a pure capitalist society ourselves. Only the true capitalist can lead the world. We, as a nation, are neither leaders nor capitalists as of this posting.

[Orangedog]

Which is to say it is impossible to be a Christian and logical. Right?

And you decided to bring religion into an a comment regarding logic because....?

[mindspy]

</>Or thanks to their incompetence and the fact that they do a job so easy that billions of people around the world can do it for much cheaper. Good riddance. Life is tough. Grow up, walk it off, and quit whining. That's what the overwhelming majority of Americans, who aren't socialists, are doing. The US rules.

Sorry, try as I might, I cannot get the above in italics.

Perhaps. However, not everyone is a rocket scientist. Our country needs everyone to work, even the dummies. We need people to be able to afford medical care so that smart people can go to school and become doctors, biotechnologists, etc. further a factory in a community provides a base for many other jobs. People go to the market, get their hair done, get divorced and pay attorneys, get married and buy homes, cars, jewelry. People have children and send them to school, preferably private school. They support religious education. The list is endless. Also many of the people outsourcing jobs wouldn't be in the position they are in today had they not had the opportunity to grow up in a middle to upper middle class family which supported them through childhood and into college. Grant it many come up the hard way, but they too had opportunity due to the U.S. economy.

[John123]

Thanks! I am sure you are getting a lot of graft on this thread. If you haven't already, you should take a look at books by Julian Simon. The best ones are "Its getting Better All the Time" and "The Ultimate Resource 2." Julian died a few years ago but has had many of his books published posthumously. He was an economist that believed in human capital. He also was the winner of that famous bet with Paul Ehrlich.

These books are filled with past historical data that proves conclusively that we are definitely better off in spite of all the demagoguery the liberals spout. :)

[Texas_Dawg]

And you decided to bring religion into an a comment regarding logic because....?

You implied it was impossible ("water and oil", etc.) to be joyful and logical. That would rule out, by your statement, being a Christian and being logical.

[Texas_Dawg]

I support all such instruments; with those nations that do the same in return.

Pure capitalists support the removal of restrictions on economic freedom and trade. You either support our doing so, or you do not, but if you do not you are not a pure capitalist... for whatever that's worth.

[Beck_isright]

"Pure capitalists support the removal of restrictions on economic freedom and trade. You either support our doing so, or you do not, but if you do not you are not a pure capitalist... for whatever that's worth."

It's worth about .0001 as some stocks are traded in the garbage markets. The reality is that there is a difference between being a "sucker" and being a "capitalist". Also since we are not a capitalist nation, we can only export our perverse version of socio-capitalism of a model similar to the Eurotrash. Hence, we accomplish nothing but to expand a warped version of Adam Smith meets Karl Marx. We have no room to talk nor act until we clean up our own backyard. The path we have chosen will be fatal to the the true capitalists of our own nation.

[Starwind]

Pure capitalists support the removal of restrictions on economic freedom and trade. You either support our doing so, or you do not, but if you do not you are not a pure capitalist... for whatever that's worth.

It is worth nothing from someone whose definition of economic feedom and trade only goes one way.

Texas_Dawg is free to violate the paid subscription rights of the articles' owners (and then lie about it), China is free to violate US copyrights and patents (and then lie about it).

You are no capitalist. You are not an institutional trader, you don't behave like an American. You are just a common flack.

[Beck_isright]

"You are not an institutional trader"

Now THAT'S the worst insult of any thrown out on this thread...

[Beck_isright]

Since I answered your question, I have one for you:

Have you ever owned or created a business of your own?

I think that's a fair question to ask.

[Starwind]

One of his numerous pretensions. He's just a wannabe.

[Beck_isright]

Me thinkst I've asked the key question in 113.

[pyx]

...right-wing socialist FRinge posters at FR...

right wing socialist ?
bwahahahahaha
Its been my experience that Bible believing Christians, tend to be Bible reading Christians and as such, are not prone to the usage of oxymorons.

[Starwind]

There are several.

I question if he's ever held a job, let alone managed one.

He has no more depth than he'd get from reading too much Kudlow.

[Beck_isright]

I'm curious to see his answer. It is the key question of the thread. Happiness is moot. You're never happy the first year in the creation of your business because you're in a fight. Capitalism is bare knuckles boxing at it's best.

[Texas_Dawg]

Have you ever owned or created a business of your own?

No.

[Texas_Dawg]

You must not have ever heard of Pat Buchanan.