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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity; 1Old Pro; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; a_federalist; abner; aculeus; ...
"The Forest Service's own post-fire investigation concluded that the 'primary cause' of the wildfire was the decision to ignite that 400-acre parcel."

Interesting, let's read on...

"Well, maybe 'nobody' SHOULD be questioning the need for presribed burns. I find their pattern of controlled burns getting out of control pretty disturbing. In most cases, the cause of the out-of-control fire is sheer incompetence."

Is your mind open to another suggestion?

The Forest Service is over-run with pagan environmentalists, and they have an agenda so dark that they make Stalin and Hitler seem like choir boys. This is all far beyond accidents, and coincidences, and the well known incompetetence of the fed gov cannot explain recent events.

Having watched the behavior of the supervisory personnel during the lightening-started fires in Tuolumne county last summer, I have come to the realization that there is a policy in place (at what level I do not know) to allow fires to get a head start before they begin to fight them.

If you'll recall, that is what allowed the Biscuit fire to eventually burn almost 1/4 of the forests in central Oregon.

12 posted on 01/03/2004 3:01:43 PM PST by editor-surveyor ( . Best policy RE: Environmentalists, - ZERO TOLERANCE !!)
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To: editor-surveyor
Like your tag line.
13 posted on 01/03/2004 3:11:23 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: editor-surveyor
FIRE ~ Bump!
14 posted on 01/03/2004 3:11:56 PM PST by blackie
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To: editor-surveyor
My husband who is from California says most of the fires there are man made.
17 posted on 01/03/2004 4:46:04 PM PST by freekitty
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To: editor-surveyor
The Forest Service is over-run with pagan environmentalists, and they have an agenda so dark that they make Stalin and Hitler seem like choir boys.

And they churn out junk science in an attempt to mislead.
Thanks for the ping.

18 posted on 01/03/2004 4:58:56 PM PST by sistergoldenhair
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There is a policy of nature's method of controlling trashy forests. The great fire in the Yellowstone several years, a decade ago, was allowed to burn until it got so large that they decided it was going to get out of the park and overwhelm the states surrounding it.

According to the enviros, human progress is to be avoided at any cost. Unfortunately, there are many enviros imbedded in the government. There is also the issue that fire fighting is a vocation of its own in the forest service. They don't want the fire to get out of control but want a big enough one to fill out the paycheck.

19 posted on 01/03/2004 5:20:28 PM PST by meenie (Remember the Alamo! Alamo! One more time. Alamo!!!)
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The fire that burned all those homes around Hamilton Montana a few years back could have easily been put out.

Several experienced fire fighters, ( out of work loggers), and other truck drivers stopped to put it out right after it started and were chased away by Forest Service employees.

Instead of paying the local out of work loggers they brought what they called more expert fire fighters from other countries to fight the fire.

At night the would share cultural dances in the fire camps

Didn't sound too much like their fire fighting was very hard work.

I am still angry about it.
20 posted on 01/03/2004 5:59:25 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: editor-surveyor
Having watched the behavior of the supervisory personnel during the lightening-started fires in Tuolumne county last summer, I have come to the realization that there is a policy in place (at what level I do not know) to allow fires to get a head start before they begin to fight them.

An accident on purpose, eh? Seeing the behavior of leftists in other areas of politics and govt., I wouldn't be surprised.

22 posted on 01/03/2004 6:48:23 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Bad spellers of the world untie!!)
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To: editor-surveyor; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; BOBTHENAILER; dennisw; Carry_Okie; farmfriend
there is a policy in place (at what level I do not know) to allow fires to get a head start before they begin to fight them.

This comes from the top. Our local National Forest (Klamath N.F.) annouced last August that they would now use wildfires as a tool to achieve "land management objectives". These people literally cannot find their ass with both hands, how the hell are they gonna control 300' flame lengths?

The USFS is decommisioning roads, a third of the air tanker fleet is permantly grounded because the wings are falling off due to airframe fatigue; yet catastrophic fire does not worry the USFS? So let me get this straight, less roads to get into the woods means the USFS needs to rely more heavily on aircraft; but we don't have as many planes as before because we wore them out fighting all the fires the Clinton people set. Meanwhile, we still got medicated imbeciles who think that throwing a match into 90 years of fuel accumulation is a peachy-keen thing to do.

When the whole thing goes up in flames, the press still cannot figure out what happened. Why? Because the press and the enviros refuse to hold the social outcasts in the USFS that thought-up this delusion accountable!!!

How many thousands of acres of forest must be incinerated before this asine policy is abandoned? When will the journalist who supposedly dedicate their careers to informing the public of the truth, kick their addiction to regurgitating lies spewed by enviro outfits that are more interested in anarchy and socialism, then the health of the forest?

24 posted on 01/03/2004 10:05:30 PM PST by forester (Here's a happy new year rant!!!)
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To: editor-surveyor
BTTT!!!!!!
32 posted on 01/04/2004 3:16:03 AM PST by E.G.C.
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