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A Plan to Save American Manufacturing
TradeAlert.org ^ | Wednesday, December 31, 2003 | Kevin L. Kearns, Alan Tonelson, and William Hawkins

Posted on 01/01/2004 9:04:11 AM PST by Willie Green

For education and discussion only. Not for commercial use.

Although warnings about the crisis engulfing American manufacturing have been intensifying for months, the sector´s woes continue to be significantly underestimated – certainly by official Washington and even by many manufacturers themselves.  In fact, despite the current boost in growth fueled by deficit spending, tax cuts, mortgage re-financings, and other one-time stimuli, the decline of American manufacturing is fast nearing the point of irreversibility – at least from the standpoint of restoring a critical mass of industries producing in the United States to world leadership.

The nation, in short, faces a manufacturing emergency. Unless drastic measures are taken quickly, this emergency will turn the United States into a second-class manufacturing power, greatly diminishing its own future economic prospects. Further, national security and flexibility in foreign affairs will be severely compromised.  Finally, the international imbalances being created by the manufacturing crisis will likely push the world into a major dollar crisis and could cause a protracted depression.

In part, the manufacturing crisis reflects the economy´s latest cyclical downturn and the deflating of the bubble of the 1990s.  Likewise, the manufacturing employment portion of the crisis stems in part from the increases in productivity in recent years.  But neither of these factors sufficiently explains the root cause of manufacturing´s current troubles, which are the worst by many measures since the end of World War II, and that is the cumulative and continuing effects of two decades of misguided, ill-advised, and weak-willed U.S. trade and globalization policies.

During this period, Washington has consistently failed to open foreign consumption markets adequately to U.S. producers – despite years of promises and the fanfare that greeted each new trade agreement.  In addition, the American government has failed miserably to combat predatory foreign trade practices aimed at undermining U.S. producers in their home market.  Perversely, Washington has responded to these failures by encouraging U.S. manufacturers to supply their home market from low-cost third world production platforms like Mexico and China. And most U.S. multinational corporations, and indeed some of their smaller suppliers, have responded with enthusiasm.

NO TIME TO LOSE

The most serious global macroeconomic dangers stemming from the continued flight of American manufacturing overseas have to date been avoided and may be postponed still further by continued financial policy legerdemain – though the faster America´s international debts keep rising, the more difficult the challenge of correcting the imbalances. But regardless of when the crunch actually comes, the weakening of domestic manufacturing is already undermining the material foundations of American national success.

The prolonged wage slump triggered by the overseas migration of America´s best-paying jobs on average has been rippling through the U.S. economy and American society for at least two decades.  The loss of these important jobs represents a shrinking of the employment base needed for a middle-class standard of living, stable families, and the local and state tax revenues necessary for a first-world level of responsibly financed public infrastructure and social services. Consequently, Americans find increasingly at risk their hard-won 20th century gains in access to quality education, health care, and retirement security (whether paid for by a solvent public sector or a sufficiently broad-based and profitable private sector).

In addition, the manufacturing crisis raises serious questions about the U.S. economy´s ability to maintain a high-tech, world-leading military without worrisome dependence on foreign products and technologies.  Although it is true that defense-related imports come overwhelmingly from long-time allies or traditionally friendly countries, it is just as true that they are growing rapidly at a time when major disagreements increasingly mark the relationships between the United States and these countries.

Further, the massive loss of tax revenue – both corporate and personal – directly attributable to a disappearing industrial base will undoubtedly constrain America´s ability to sustain military operations in both peacetime and wartime at levels that U.S. policymakers have come to take for granted.  Thus the country faces a future in which the ability to project power and thereby affect events and outcomes the world over will be much more limited than anytime in the last century and a quarter.

Most worrisome, the decline of American manufacturing is quickly feeding on itself and gaining unstoppable momentum. Washington´s continuing failure to secure equitable terms of trade forces more and more U.S. firms to compensate by outsourcing.  These moves create powerful pressure for growing numbers of the remaining hold-out companies to follow suit.

The migration of prime contractors overseas inexorably pulls much of their supply chains with them. The export of blue-collar production work leads to the export of white-collar manufacturing-related work, as companies seek the advantages of locating researchers and designers near the factories they service.  In fact, there is a continuous feed-back loop between R&D efforts and the factory floor, with the two functions, R&D and production, operating in tandem.  And as is well documented, R&D and other technology work often produce a clustering effect, which draws labs and similar facilities from other industries in search of new synergies. The notion that the United States will retain high-end design functions while letting production migrate overseas is wishful thinking.  Without major globalization policy changes, this vicious cycle of manufacturing flight cannot be turned into a virtuous cycle of manufacturing resurgence.

LESSONS OF THE RECENT PAST

The following action plan for saving and reviving U.S. industry incorporates recent policy lessons that Americans simply can no longer afford to ignore.

First, although America´s regulatory and tax systems have unnecessarily raised domestic business costs in many instances, the manufacturing crisis springs from far deeper roots. No regulatory, health care, or tax reform schemes that would produce acceptable economic, social, or political results can overcome the damage being done to American manufacturing by today´s globalization policy failures. Improved industrial competitiveness cannot and should not be based on gutting the basics of a just, humane, and inclusive society. Fundamentally new globalization policies are the sine qua non for saving and reviving American manufacturing.

Second, the United States will always have more control over its own actions than over the actions of other countries. Therefore, the keys to reversing American manufacturing´s decline lie neither in more market-opening trade agreements nor in efforts to micro-manage economic and social conditions overseas. Despite decades of so-called free trade agreements, too many foreign markets still remain too closed to U.S. exports. The main reason: Most of the world´s countries view trade as a zero sum game, with a piece of the American domestic market as the prize.  The handful of economies wealthy enough to consume American-made goods can erect new trade barriers faster than U.S. negotiators can even identify them. The U.S. government, moreover, has too much trouble enforcing its own laws and regulations here at home to imagine that enforcing foreign laws and regulations, even those imposed by future trade agreements, will be successful.

Instead, to achieve the necessary results, the United States must focus on managing its own behavior and controlling access to its own market, unilaterally conditioning that access ona strategic analysis of its own national needs and on acceptable practices by its trade partners. In addition, the United States must rely mainly on its own power and leverage to achieve satisfactory terms of trade.  As the record unmistakably shows, one-country-one-vote international organizations like the World Trade Organization too readily turn into mechanisms for undermining American sovereignty, diluting American power, and maintaining global economic free-riding.

Finally, Washington must recognize that simply promoting economic growth and higher incomes abroad will not alone cure U.S. manufacturing´s ills and rebalance America´s trade accounts. Most countries refuse to trust their economic fates to market forces or refuse to permit higher domestic growth to draw in proportionately higher volumes of imports. In short, too little commerce around the world is free enough to allow potential future growth to serve as a U.S. trade and manufacturing cure-all.

The following U.S. Business and Industry Council manufacturing blueprint emphasizes short-term emergency measures for reversing domestic manufacturing´s decline and laying the foundation for its revival. But it also includes longer-term proposals for ensuring that U.S. trade and globalization policies do not revert to the practices that have produced today´s crisis.

EMERGENCY MEASURES

1. The president must declare that the United States faces a manufacturing, R&D, and outsourcing emergency no less threatening to America´s long-term future than even the Great Depression. He must also make clear that the crisis stems mainly from the manipulation of world trading system by mercantilist countries and to the encouragement of offshoring by U.S. trade policy.

2. The president should create an Apollo Program-type task force in the federal government to oversee Washington´s response to the manufacturing crisis. Its mission should be to restore domestic U.S. manufacturing to global preeminence and to boost domestic manufacturing employment and wages.  The program should involve all agencies of U.S. government.

3. Federal R&D spending should be tripled and Washington should offer matching grants to industry.  Special emphasis should be placed on tasking the national labs with helping to develop commercially viable, high-tech products to be manufactured in the United States.

4. The U.S. trade deficit should be quickly and dramatically reduced by imposing a “variable trade equalization tariff” on imports from countries running a trade surplus ten percent or greater of total bilateral trade.  These tariffs should be increased each year until bilateral surpluses fall below the threshold level, at which time they would be removed. Tariffs should be imposed on U.S. trading partners as soon as surpluses reach the 10 percent threshold.

The United States should offer a partial exemption for the world´s poorest countries, but only if concrete, measurable trade breaks from the other OECD countries follow suit and only if the developing country seeking the exemption demonstrates a commitment to democracy and the economic advancement of all its people.  Exemptions are not intended to enrich corrupt, dictatorial elites.

In addition, exceptions would be made for energy imports and other commodities that are not found in the United States and for which no acceptable substitutes exist.

5. Companies manufacturing or assembling in the United States should be barred from treating service work performed overseas as a deductible business expense.  Private companies that outsource overseas the processing of sensitive records, such as medical and financial records, must ensure that their subcontractors meet U.S. privacy standards or face stiff fines.  

6.. Washington should declare a moratorium on all current and future free trade talks pending development of new national trade strategy. The United States government clearly has lost the ability to negotiate trade agreements that enrich the great majority of Americans and strengthen the domestic manufacturing base on net. U.S. leaders should not engage in trade negotiations until this ability is regained.

To develop a fundamentally new national trade strategy, the president and Congress should appoint a National Trade Strategy Commission that includes representatives of business plus civil society groups, such as labor unions and environmental groups. The business representatives on the Commission should be dominated by companies and industries that produce the great majority of their product and value in the United States. The Commission should also include representatives of the nation´s science and technology and national security communities.

7. Washington should declare a moratorium on U.S. compliance with WTO panel decisions pending dramatic reform of organization to reflect America´s position in world economy. The UN Security Council veto and the IMF/World Bank weighted voting systems are possible models of international organization structures appropriate to America´s geopolitical and economic superpower status. If appropriate reform is not completed by the end of 2005, the United States should declare its intention to withdraw from the organization as soon as legally permissible.

8. Washington should declare a moratorium on U.S. compliance with NAFTA panel decisions pending reform of NAFTA´s dispute-resolution process to reflect U.S. predominance in the North American economy. In addition, NAFTA´s rules of origin and external tariffs should be revised to offer meaningful trade preferences to goods with much higher levels of North American content.

9. The U.S. government should resolve the Foreign Sales Corporation tax dispute with the European Union and the World Trade Organization by replacing the current FSC tax incentive with a major tax break for any company, either American or foreign-owned, that performs genuine manufacturing activity in the United States.  Qualification for the tax break would require detailed certification that true manufacturing is occurring in the United States.

10. The United States should expedite procedures for anti-dumping and countervailing duty suits. Threshholds for standing, actionability, and remedies should all be eased. In addition, remedies should be extended to companies up and downstream from immediately affected industries to ensure protection for suppliers and consumers, and prevent foreign economic interests from using divide and conquer tactics against domestic industries.

11. The current steel tariffs should be expanded to cover industries using significant quantities of U.S.-made steel.  Further, the option of extending the tariffs beyond the original three-year deadline should be left open in order to determine conclusively that foreign steel subsidization and dumping have ceased.

12. A stiff tariff should be imposed on countries determined by the U.S. government to be manipulating their currencies for trade advantage. In light of the Treasury Department´s equivocation on the currency policies of Asian mercantilist nations, the definition of currency manipulation that now exists must be broadened.  A strong dollar remains in the long-term interests of the U.S. economy, but foreign governments must not be able to distort trade flows to the advantage of their companies by giving them artificial cost advantages.    

13. The defense industry must be treated by the federal government in a fundamentally different way from the commercial sector.  It exists solely to serve the national interest and national security, and must be structured and managed accordingly.  Therefore, a 65 percent U.S. content requirement should be imposed on all military procurement, rising to 80 percent in five years and 95 percent in ten years.  This requirement should immediately cover the procurement of all goods and services for domestic military facilities and operations, and to the fullest extent possible cover foreign bases as well.  Presidential waiver authority should be sharply limited, especially for countries that have records as problem traders or that demand offsets for purchases of American weapons systems.

14. Public money taken from the domestic economy by taxes or borrowing should be returned to the domestic economic economy by the procurement of American-produced goods and services.  Procuring government services domestically is also necessary to ensure the continued privacy and security of the financial and health records of all Americans.  Thus a 50 percent U.S.-content requirement should be imposed on all non-military federal procurement, rising to 80 percent in five years and 95 percent in ten years. Presidential waiver authority should be sharply limited. This requirement should immediately cover the procurement of all services for domestic facilities and programs.

15. The scheduled abolition of the Multi-Fiber Arrangement governing world trade in textile and apparel should be suspended indefinitely, pending a study of the effects of the MFA's abolition on domestic and third-world producers in these industries.

16. Stiff tariffs should be levied on countries that impose offset requirements on U.S. defense manufacturers.

17. The president should declare a moratorium on foreign acquisitions of U.S. defense-related companies pending completion of comprehensive study of the status of the roughly 1,500 such companies acquired since 1988 under the current policy framework and government screening system.

18. Strict, detailed country-of-origin labeling should be required on all food and agricultural imports.

19. Legal immigration into the United States should be limited to 500,000 annually. Enforcement measures to halt illegal immigration should be dramatically increased, including significant and sustained increases in the budgets of those federal agencies responsible for enforcing immigration laws.  

Immigration at today´s levels – both legal and illegal – can only serve to depress wages for American workers by artificially inflating the supply of labor. Moreover, the most likely victims of such massive immigration flows are the recent arrivals themselves, who are forced to compete directly for jobs with the unending flow of newcomers arriving right after them.

The H-1B visa program for technology workers should be abolished.  A new federal commission comprised both of U.S. technology worker interests and tech industry interests should conduct a study to determine labor needs in technology industries and how they should be met.

LONGER-TERM MEASURES

1. Washington must insist that any future trade agreements be strictly reciprocal and strongly enforceable by the U.S. government, unilaterally if necessary.

2. Any future U.S. trade agreements must include provisions penalizing signatories for currency manipulation.  IN fact, currency manipulation can be used to defeat or offset the effects of reducing or eliminating trade barriers.  

3. The president should launch a major diplomatic campaign to press other OECD countries to increase third world imports, enforceable unilaterally by tariffs on the products of any non-cooperating OECD countries. Under-importing of third-world products by the European Union and Japan in particular has greatly increased the pressure on the U.S. market to absorb third-world production. Greater burden sharing in this vital sphere is urgently needed.

Because the overriding interest of U.S. trade policy is to advance the economic interests of the great majority on the American people and the long-term security and prosperity of the United States, Americans should feel no special obligation to import goods or services from third-world, or indeed any other, countries.  Such imports are especially unacceptable if they sacrifice the interests of American workers and domestic companies.  But a campaign to get Europe and Japan to do more is needed for three reasons:

  1. to counter perceptions that U.S. protectionism is the greatest current barrier to third world economic development;
  2. to highlight America´s record in promoting this development; and
  3. to call attention to the poor importing records of the other main OECD countries.

4. The United States should focus any new trade agreements on high-income countries capable of serving as final consumers of U.S. exports. Washington´s recent focus on third world countries capable of serving only as re-export platforms has been a substantial contributor to today´s current trade deficits.  In particular, the United States should seek a free trade agreement with Europe that excludes agriculture.  Washington should also take stronger measures to open Japanese and Korean markets, including unilateral tariffs if necessary.

5. The president should remove responsibility for monitoring and enforcing trade agreements from the office of the U.S. Trade Representative and place it in the Department of Commerce. As the lead agency for negotiating new trade agreements, the USTR´s office has every incentive to soft-pedal the deficiencies in both the structure and functioning of these agreements. Dividing these responsibilities would eliminate a major policy-making conflict of interest.  

6. Congress should enact strict foreign lobbying reform covering all federal officials, including lifetime bans on working for foreign interests for former senior Executive and Legislative branch officials.

7. The Commerce and Defense Departments should be designated as co-chairs of the inter-agency Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, which reviews all proposed foreign acquisitions of U.S. defense-related companies. Exon-Florio filings  must be made mandatory, and the threshold for investigation lowered.  With the Treasury Department chairing this panel for its decade-and-a-half of existence, national security concerns have not been adequately addressed in CFIUS´s decisions, which generally reflect only Treasury´s desire to see surplus dollars in foreign hands repatriated effortlessly.

8. The president should commission immediate reports – written by special Commercial Action Teams composed mainly of industry representatives and some government officials – on foreign subsidies existing outside the steel industry and implement tariffs to offset them. Washington should first offer to negotiate the abolition of such subsidies, but it must insist on results that are achieved quickly, as well as completely verifiable and enforceable by the U.S. government.

9. The federal government must publish more complete and timely foreign trade and investment data. This data should include detailed information on the importing, sourcing, and employment trends of all multinational companies and in fact all companies that do business in the United States.  The provision of the data to the appropriate government agencies must be made mandatory.

10. The president should launch a comprehensive review of all U.S. defense alliances to determine which remain relevant to 21st century U.S. interests.  The president should explicitly state that foreign policy and defense considerations will no longer automatically trump the economic interests of the United States and the American people.

STRONG – BUT ESSENTIAL – MEDICINE

No one should assume that implementing this manufacturing revival plan will be pain-free. All economic adjustments and transitions exact costs as well as create benefits.  Those necessary to improve the long-run fundamentals of American manufacturing and strengthen the foundations of the U.S. and world economies as a whole will be that much more difficult because of the national and global economic excesses that were fostered since the completion of the “Tokyo Round” of international trade talks, but especially during the 1990s.

Specifically, some temporary slowdown in U.S. and global growth rates seems unavoidable. And thanks to the power of recklessly expanded international trade and investment, pushed unceasingly by economic ideologues and short-sighted multinational companies, achieving this slowdown will require serious restrictions on trade and investment flows.

Yet the only alternatives proposed to date are policies that are already proven failures, or that are surrenders to wishful thinking. Moreover, these responses can only postpone the day of reckoning, not prevent it. And just as permitting a disease to fester usually ensures that the needed treatment will be that much stronger, more painful, and less certain to work, permitting the manufacturing crisis to fester and inflating the global economic bubble further will only increase, not decrease the economic dangers facing America and the world.

The implementation of restorative measurers cannot be left to the good sense of Washington policymakers and elected officials.  As a group, they have demonstrated convincingly time and again that they do not grasp the magnitude of the problems they have created and that they are bereft of comprehensive solutions.  Instead, they prefer cosmetic changes, designed to relieve political pressure and ensure reelection.

If the necessary policy reorientation is to be accomplished, the impetus must come from the remaining domestic manufacturers, their employees, their communities, and local and state governments, which are experiencing first-hand the budget crises caused in large part by globalization policies – whether the movement of plants overseas, company bankruptcies due to unfair foreign practices, high-tech and other services outsourcing, uncontrolled immigration with the resulting disproportionate consumption of social services, etc.  In short, grass roots efforts must reach critical mass to force Washington to change two generations of misguided policies.

If any political leaders or economic experts know how to solve the manufacturing and trade crises without the significant trade restrictions featured in our action plan, the U.S. Business and Industry Council would welcome their ideas with open arms. But we would also be wondering what they´ve been waiting for.  The time for comprehensive action to save American manufacturing has long since passed. Very soon there will be little left to save.


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KEYWORDS: freetrade; globalism; immigration; manufacturing; nationaldebt; nationalsecurity; sovereignty; technology; thebusheconomy; trade; tradedeficit
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To: Erik Latranyi
The answer is simply a continuing increase in productivity.
Automation is far more reliable, offers higher quality and lower costs than the lowest wage nations overseas.
More automated industries allow employees to seek employment in higher-skilled areas such as engineering, maintenance, etc.

False assumption.
Automation is not a panacea.
The high investment cost of automating domestic manufacturing is undermined by imports in many ways.


61 posted on 01/01/2004 11:49:26 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: A. Pole
You really don't understand?

Yes I do, however I don't understand your reply. Sorry for being so pragmatic.

62 posted on 01/01/2004 11:49:59 AM PST by EGPWS
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To: nmh
Perhaps you wish to discuss the difference between "socialist utopia" and meaningful regulation of labor standards.

But then, it's much easier to paste labels than actually think about first things, isn't it?
63 posted on 01/01/2004 11:51:58 AM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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To: ninenot
While your understanding of tax/reg problems is excellent, please advise which politician will advocate even the SLIGHTEST rollback in EPA, OSHA, or EEO regs/standards.

Thank you for the compliment. They WOULD advocate it if enough people (voters) understood the problem and demanded it. They keep putting the blame on things other than the real problem. People keep hearing the lies and believe them because they've heard them over and over from "reliable" sources such as the DemocRATS, liberal Republicans and the lamestream news media outlets.

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Last, even though the numbers are noticeable, tax/reg costs are only about 15% (or less) of sales for most organizations. That's not quite the same as the 70% difference in costs for most comparos of China/USA

That number of 15% is true if you only look at the top tier of manufacturing for a product. That 15% is cascaded throughout the whole process of a product from the harvesting of the raw materials all the way up the stream through processing, shipping, manufacturing, marketing, distributing the finished goods, etc. I submit to you that the net effect would be more than the 70% difference between China and here. Remember that the 15% is added at every level and compounded through the whole process in everything we produce. By the time the consumer picks a product off the shelf, I'll bet the net effect of taxes and regulations is up to well over 90%.
64 posted on 01/01/2004 11:52:57 AM PST by gooleyman
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To: Willie Green; Erik Latranyi
Automation is a wonderful thing. The PRC knows it, too, Eric!!

Ford Motor was told that they could build a plant in PRC, and they were ALSO told that PRC would own ALL the technology in that plant at the end of five years.

Duh.
65 posted on 01/01/2004 11:54:07 AM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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To: Willie Green
So when the proposed Five Year Plan fails due to the raised taxes needed to fund it, which Great Leap Forward will let us see the Light At The End Of The Tunnel and allow us to find Prosperity Around The Corner?

The whole article seems to be aimed at a Syndicalist Society type of structure; it's rather reminicent of Robert Reich's version of economics. Perhaps the authors look nostagically back to the Clinton Era Of Prosperity.
66 posted on 01/01/2004 11:56:29 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: nmh
I see the disgruntled right wing, socialists who want to relive the past are having a pity feast again.

"right wing socialists???

What kind of confused, globo-marxist baloney is that????

But, in general, the protective system of our day is conservative, while the free trade system is destructive. It breaks up old nationalities and pushes the antagonism of the proletariat and the bourgeoisie to the extreme point. In a word, the free trade system hastens the social revolution. It is in this revolutionary sense alone, gentlemen, that I vote in favor of free trade.

~Karl Marx, "On the Question of Free Trade" - January 9, 1848


67 posted on 01/01/2004 11:57:59 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
The high investment cost of automating domestic manufacturing is undermined by imports in many ways.

Imports has nothing to do with it Willie! Automating is much more efficient with our computer capabilities we have now and the cost of sick time, vacation time, HR, supervision, safety concerns, hasmat, union dues, SS, health insurance, and Government intervention has led businesses to continue their life long ambition to cut costs.

68 posted on 01/01/2004 11:58:14 AM PST by EGPWS
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To: All
there is a continuous feed-back loop between R&D efforts and the factory floor, with the two functions, R&D and production, operating in tandem.

Same is true of software development and R&D.

Now on to what appears to be not so bad news, but..

Franklin J. Vargo Vice President, International Economic Affairs National Association of Manufacturers told the House Committee on International Relations in Hearing On U.S.-China Ties: Reassessing the Economic Relationship, October 21, 2003

"American companies invest in China, as they do in other countries, but the size of the investments are surprisingly small. Ninety percent of U.S. foreign direct investment goes to the high-income countries, predominantly Europe, to enable U.S. producers to be close to the market. The vast majority of the production of U.S. affiliates is sold locally, in the country of production. . .only 10 percent of U.S. offshore manufacturing production is exported back to the United States. The rest is consumed locally or exported to third countries.

"The same is true with U.S. investments in China. First, they are still very small. Less than 5% of U.S. global foreign direct investment in manufacturing is going to China. Commerce Department data show that the bulk of the output of U.S. firms in China is sold in the local Chinese market. Commerce’s data imply that only three percent of U.S. imports from China came from U.S. manufacturing affiliates there. Census Bureau data show that imports into the United States by all multinationals (U.S., European, Japanese, etc.) from their Chinese affiliates account for only 20 percent of total imports from China.

"Thus, the data do not support the view that a huge rush of outsourcing has resulted in our trade imbalance with China. Nevertheless, it is certainly true that more U.S. companies are beginning to talk about the necessity of moving to China to stay globally competitive. A growing erosion of our manufacturing base is a real possibility. The best way to ensure that investment flows follow economic fundamentals while maintaining growing manufacturing production in the United States is to have market-determined currencies and a better investment environment in the United States. We need to avoid artificial factors that distort trade and investment, but we must also take the steps necessary to reduce the cost of production in the United States and to improve the attractiveness of the United States as a place for both U.S. and foreign companies to invest. " [end excerpt]

There are two things here. First, in Europe, "The vast majority of the production of U.S. affiliates is sold locally, in the country of production" and second, "the bulk of the output of U.S. firms in China is sold in the local Chinese market."

The way I read the excerpt the bulk of the imports from China come from chi-com companies.

But! Just in the past few days a newspaper's series was posted describing the experiences of several American companies including Motorola.

Without criticizing the practice the series pointed out that the chi-coms require American companies to bring Chinese "partners" up to speed on technology, management, and production. Motorola once was the biggest cell phone supplier in China but no longer. Chinese companies now have Mototola's cookies and are now the largest suppliers. Don't recall if the series mentioned exports but the chi-coms' campanies could easily overwhelm Motorola there also, I bet.

I suspect the Chinese companies that supply the bulk of our imports obtained their position in the same manner. Demand that American companies transfer their technology as a condition of having access to the billion Chinese "consumers," take the technology and start up chi-com (princeling) companies, take over the market. Repeat.

One more task needs to be added to the President's EMERGENCY MEASURES: assign adult American patriots to supervise our useful idiots.

69 posted on 01/01/2004 11:58:36 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: gooleyman
I'll grant your 90% estimate (I'd heard numbers like that before...)

So what?

Actually, even if you took out all the REALLY stupid regs and eliminated C-Corp taxation entirely (a VERY good thing to do...) you still have a problem: certain other countries dumping all kinds of crap into rivers, skies, etc., not to mention certain other countries dumping the dead bodies of laborers into the same places.

All that flapjaw from GWB about "establishing Democracy" in such exotic places as Iraq--and he can't "establish reasonable standards" anyplace else?

Well--he can't. We cannot force PRC, Brazil, India, or Malaysia to accept minimum standards of EPA/OSHA/FLSA. But we CAN tell them to drop dead until they do so.
70 posted on 01/01/2004 11:59:20 AM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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To: Willie Green
The article doesn't suggest eliminating the income tax, which is simply a tariff on American production. The piddly tax breaks at the federal level were immediately offset by increases in income and sales taxes at the state and local levels. The money to run the government should come from tariffs on products produced in foreign countries. Let them pay for the priviledge of access to our consumer markets.

Tons of counter-productive regulations need to go to the trash heap, and the NGOs pushing for them need to be stopped.

We are moving into a crisis era similar to the Great Depression of the 1930s, and more government interference, ala the FDR power grab, will just prolong the agony, just as it did then. Government needs to be trimmed to the bone and refocused on the survival of the United States, or the rising generation of voters will have to demand even more drastic measures to ensure their own survival. About four more years of Boomer control of government and institutions is going to be the end of that generation's control. Their credibility will be completely shot with two younger generations of really angry and desperate voters.

This stock market bump is not sustainable without more wealth being created internally, and is only sucking another round of borrowed US money into the stock market casino. The offshoring of our most advanced technology and manufacturing cannot honestly be compared to the decline of the buggy-whip industry. It is national suicide.

71 posted on 01/01/2004 12:04:27 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: ninenot
Let's look at the Buggy Whip manufacturers who have significantly off-shored their operations in the last 10 years:

Didn't know these manufacturers were focused on "buggy whips" however praise to their CEO's for understanding that "buggy whip" manufacturing is best left to someone else.

72 posted on 01/01/2004 12:05:28 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: Willie Green
"Right wing" meaning - you think you are conservatives. "Socialists" meaning you're really not. You want the government and anyone else available to make sure you can do whatever you want for a living and get overpaid for it.

Genuine conservative people get on with something else for a livelihood. You guys can't seem to do that. Reality isn't you bag. I think you should vote for Dean. He's a whiner too. He hates advancement. In fact, you might now think the world of the unibomber. He hated technology too - whether it be with technology jobs or menial manufacturing type jobs.

By all means, keep belly aching. Stay stuck in time. Imagine reality will change to suit your self serving world view. It's less competition out there for folks.

73 posted on 01/01/2004 12:06:58 PM PST by nmh
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To: ninenot
Actually, even if you took out all the REALLY stupid regs and eliminated C-Corp taxation entirely (a VERY good thing to do...) you still have a problem: certain other countries dumping all kinds of crap into rivers, skies, etc., not to mention certain other countries dumping the dead bodies of laborers into the same places.

We can't control those countries, even the nuts who wrote this plan agree to that. We lose even more control when we continue to chase our companies into the arms of these Jezebel countries. If a company has the bulk of his factories in countries you mentioned, he's going to lobby hard for Congress and the President NOT to do anything that jeopardizes his operations and people in those countries. And believe me his money speaks loudly to them. Much louder than we can on this forum.

We must lower the taxes and regulation and our manufacturers will return here, provide the jobs that people argue for, and return us to having more control over these other countries. I think that will go a long way to making them straighten up too.
74 posted on 01/01/2004 12:13:01 PM PST by gooleyman
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To: EGPWS
Automating is much more efficient with our computer capabilities we have now and the cost of sick time

I guess you didn't bother to read what I said about automation also being implemented offshore.
Even the most sophisticated automation in the world doesn't operate totally unattended.
But there's no sense trying to explain that to the intentionally ignorant.

75 posted on 01/01/2004 12:15:03 PM PST by Willie Green (So onto my "ignore this bozo" list you go.)
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To: Willie Green
having worked for a very large manufacturer, I have watched with wonder why things have been allowed to deteriorate so badly. I can offer dozens of examples...but just look at one...Can anyone guess who makes all the ceramic packages our microprocessors sit on? Consider that fact that our hi-tech military needs these advanced microprocessors for bunches of our geewiz war things, would it trouble you to know that the USA doesn't any longer have a capability to manufacture the ceramic packages that go along with the microprocessors. Some might think...we can solve that with a handful of PhDs and a few million USDs. Before you think you can do it, talk to the companies that WERE in the biz but were driven out by predatory pricing practices of companies on the other side of the globe. Rest assured the US companies howled loudly but we were suppose to play nicey nice and shut up.

Spin the clock forward 15-20 yrs later. We could be held hostage to the country from which ceramic packages are exported. We'd need their permission to go to war. If the country I'm alluding to was France, Germany or Russia.. we'd have been screwed in our efforts to fight in Iraq.

One by one these precious manufacturing capabilities are being lost to countries who can set up manufacturing plants in the jungles of Southeast Asia. Take a current example...where are most hard drives assembled? What would happen if the people controlling these places decided we weren't going to get anymore hard drives? The people assembling your hard drive are very satisfied with a few bowls of rice and protection from the rebels and wild animals. There are times when I think those people assembling the hard drive may be better off financially than the majority of Americans who have leveraged every single thing they have requiring them to work longer hours at one or more jobs.
76 posted on 01/01/2004 12:16:27 PM PST by Russ7
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To: Willie Green
Dearest Willie,

"But, in general, the protective system of our day is conservative, while the free trade system is destructive. It breaks up old nationalities and pushes the antagonism of the proletariat and the bourgeoisie to the extreme point. In a word, the free trade system hastens the social revolution. It is in this revolutionary sense alone, gentlemen, that I vote in favor of free trade.

~Karl Marx, "On the Question of Free Trade" - January 9, 1848

Have you NO clue on what the context of this is?

Are you able to read and comprehend?

Notice:

It is in this REVOLUTIONARY SENSE ALONE, gentlemen, that I vote in favor of free trade.

He was NOT advocating "free trade". He was advocating revolution AGAINST capitalism.

You are such an idiot! Marx was NEVER a capitalist.

Marx IS what YOU are advocating - SOCIALISM and A PLANNED WORK ECONOMY that is PROTECTED.

You amaze me with your proud stupidity.

It's no wonder that dull bulbs like yourself can't deal with bettering themselves or change since you refuse to use your God given brain.
77 posted on 01/01/2004 12:20:59 PM PST by nmh
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To: Redcloak
It seems that if you are going to compete with a nation that has no health care, retirement funds, or enviromental regulations, living in a mud and straw hut with no electricity and carrying water from a common well, you are going to have trouble competing. Over a period of time, we have to make a transition to those conditions or a compensating tariff to enable our own manufacturing base to work making goods for our own people.

So far our political leaders are intent on the straw and mud hut scenario. If they are interested in retaining a nation that can support their obsessive spending habits and life style, things have to change. Driving down the dollar to attempt the change is only going to make the adjustment worse. The realization should be sinking in soon that their government is in danger as well as their position of power.

78 posted on 01/01/2004 12:24:03 PM PST by meenie (Remember the Alamo! Alamo! One more time. Alamo!!!)
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To: nmh
Genuine conservative people get on with something else for a livelihood.

Genuine conservatives are well informed on issues of national policy and are actively engaged in promoting policy changes that benefit America First! in conformance with their conservative principles.

"Move along" is a marxist mantra chanted by proponents of elitist, globo-governance.

79 posted on 01/01/2004 12:25:19 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: nmh
No one is enslaved to only ONE kind of work

No we are only enslaved to a global socialist institution, the WTO. Newt Gingrich himself said in 1994, that the creation of the WTO was an unprecedendented transfer of sovereign power to a foreign body.

But thats the kind of world you want to live in, one dominated by global socialists who regulate everything America, from our money (world bank), our foreign aid (IMF), our environement (UN, UNEP, ICLEI) and our trade (WTO).

Yep we dumb Americans are living in fantasy world, where some of us still believe in the sovereignty of nations and have the courage to preserve the freedoms our forefathers gave us, not selling out to the global socialists like you have.

Right wing socialists my eye.No such thing.
80 posted on 01/01/2004 12:28:05 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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