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1 posted on 12/31/2003 12:24:22 PM PST by weps4ret
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Insidious to say the least.
2 posted on 12/31/2003 12:30:17 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Bush and Co. are quickly convincing me that the Constitution Party is our only hope.)
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This was posted yesterday and there was the expected reaction, denial.
3 posted on 12/31/2003 12:35:30 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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"The only thing the act accomplishes is the removal of judicial oversight and the transfer of more power to law enforcements agents."

I dont like expantion of Guv power, but this "tool" if used prudently will help in the WOT. Does anyone know what the details are of the cinderella clause that makes this measure temporary and less prone to abuse?

5 posted on 12/31/2003 12:38:50 PM PST by mylife
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I must have missed it in yesterday's discussion, but perhaps I can get the information today.. Aside from increasing the scope of 'financial institutions' that are covered, what other parts of the 'Patriot Act II' made it into bills?

So far as I've found, only that one segment made it anywhere.

And I'm seriously curious as to if the part about Indian Casinos would be able to stand court challenge.
6 posted on 12/31/2003 12:41:19 PM PST by kingu
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What a louzy position for one to be in. Either have these jack-booted animals coming after you or let the sleazy-commie judges determining your fate. Again America has sunk to a new low.
8 posted on 12/31/2003 12:49:16 PM PST by Digger
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Aside from the actual point of the article, this is becoming all too common:

"The Senate passed it with a voice vote to avoid individual accountability"


There should be no voice votes. No speeches added to the Congressional record after the fact. Of all the things it should be easy to fix, this one would do the most to stop the midnight weapons bills and the wasting of time on endorsements of "Assistant Fiduciary Secretaries Week".
10 posted on 12/31/2003 12:55:07 PM PST by m1911
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We are at war. I suggest you remember that before you start handing out tinfoil hats.
11 posted on 12/31/2003 1:17:27 PM PST by spoonfork2000
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I feel safer already.
13 posted on 12/31/2003 1:43:10 PM PST by IronJack
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