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Eyman's latest is his biggest [king of WA initiatives to file another]
The King COunty Journal ^ | 2003-12-30 2003-12-30 by Jeff Switzer Journal Reporter Tim Eyman wants voters to | Jeff Switzer

Posted on 12/30/2003 6:20:17 PM PST by Eala

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Guppy said the proposal appears to be constitutional.
``But you never know until the courts look at it,'' Guppy said.

Sometimes I still can't figure it out even after the courts have looked at it...

1 posted on 12/30/2003 6:20:18 PM PST by Eala
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To: Eala
We love Tim Eyman!! He has saved me thousands of dollars over the last several years on Washington's outrageous car tax. Every couple of years he come around with an anti-tax initiative. He makes the Dems hopping mad and Pubs look like scared little children.

Way to go.
2 posted on 12/30/2003 7:25:05 PM PST by djwright
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3 posted on 12/30/2003 7:47:23 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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4 posted on 12/30/2003 8:01:46 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (This Quiet Diplomacy was brought to you by BIG STICK foreign policy.)
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To: Eala
The King County Assessor's Office has pushed hard over the past couple of years to raise assessed values thus increasing the tax take. Eyeman's new initiative is timely.
5 posted on 12/30/2003 8:07:38 PM PST by Phaedrus
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To: Eala
Sorry, "Eyman".
6 posted on 12/30/2003 8:08:15 PM PST by Phaedrus
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To: Eala
Property taxes raised $1 billion in 1980 and have collected to $6.3 billion this year.

This is unconscionable.

7 posted on 12/30/2003 8:11:33 PM PST by Phaedrus
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To: Phaedrus
Even a fairly conservative county like mine has slowly raised assessed values thus increasing the tax take.

This is a loophole that must be closed, the value of my property to the state should match or be less than its real market value.
8 posted on 12/30/2003 8:52:44 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (This Quiet Diplomacy was brought to you by BIG STICK foreign policy.)
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To: Eala
great news for my place over in king county. Nice... About time I here something smart come out of those people over there
9 posted on 12/30/2003 8:55:22 PM PST by ezo4
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I jut got my property taxes hiked about %20. I fully support this measure. Way to go Tim!
10 posted on 12/30/2003 8:57:17 PM PST by Elliott Jackalope (We send our kids to Iraq to fight for them, and they send our jobs to India. Now THAT'S gratitude!)
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To: Phaedrus
Don't property tax values have nothing to do with the total tax collected? I.e., isn't a total revenue figure is set (this is what is now subject to the 1% annual increase), and then divided out amongst the total value of property in the relevant taxing district?

I believe that is how they do it. And if so, the government could care less how the taxes are distributed (what the assessed value is), as long as the total take is where they want it?
11 posted on 12/30/2003 8:57:17 PM PST by TheConservator (D'oh!)
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To: ezoeni
This would be good news for us as well (also in King County).
12 posted on 12/30/2003 8:58:38 PM PST by Eala (Sacrificing tagline fame for... TRAD ANGLICAN RESOURCE PAGE: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglic)
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To: Elliott Jackalope
Jut s/b just. D'oh!
13 posted on 12/30/2003 9:03:44 PM PST by Elliott Jackalope (We send our kids to Iraq to fight for them, and they send our jobs to India. Now THAT'S gratitude!)
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To: Elliott Jackalope
2003 Tax Value 99,900.00

2004 Tax Value 111,100.00

$11,200.00 increase over one year.

Now I am sitting on 5 very rural acres with a 1978 mobile home on it. We have not even started construction on our home yet.

To increase our assessed value they actually increased the value of the mobile home and decreased the value of the property a little.

Anyone who knows mobile homes and property knows that mobile homes decrease in value (we paid about $15,000 for the value of the mobile home and site development) and property increases (especially in this market). They now value my mobile home and site development at $26,600!.
14 posted on 12/30/2003 9:14:45 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (This Quiet Diplomacy was brought to you by BIG STICK foreign policy.)
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To: TheConservator
My property taxes are adjusted according to what the Assessor's office calls "True Market Value".
15 posted on 12/30/2003 9:17:48 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (This Quiet Diplomacy was brought to you by BIG STICK foreign policy.)
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To: Elliott Jackalope
We need him to draw up several initiatives, to do away with drivers licesnse for illegals, outsourcing State Government jobs, an do away with all welfare to illegals.

If California passes the Save California proposition, elimating wefare etc, we can look for all of the illegals to start looking for another state where they can obtain these benefits.
16 posted on 12/30/2003 9:21:11 PM PST by calawah98
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Agreed. While he's at it, why not draw up something like California's "Prop. 13" to freeze the property taxes once they're rolled back. Otherwise, they'll just re-assess and re-assess until they get what they want.
17 posted on 12/30/2003 9:23:56 PM PST by Elliott Jackalope (We send our kids to Iraq to fight for them, and they send our jobs to India. Now THAT'S gratitude!)
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To: TheConservator
I must admit, I'm tired to death of taxes, AND.... when it's time to vote, we are told increases are necessary for fire fighters and police. I admit this sucks totally! Safety and protection (I thought) are supposed to be the first things our taxes are spent on. I'm tired of the scare tactics. We need to remind Olympia what priorities are, but there always seems to be some pet project that most of us don't want to fund, however that doesn't stop our trusted public servants from dipping into the piggy bank. I don't mind paying my fair share. What needs to happen is bureaucracy cuts! Only then will our tax dollars (which we work hard to earn)actually find their way to necessary priorities.
18 posted on 12/30/2003 10:02:27 PM PST by Just Lori (It's time to CUT the CRAP)
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To: calawah98
I got an initiative for Tim! How about letting people who PURCHASE and then OWN property (like.. to build a house on)do what they want with THEIR OWN LAND????? A friend of ours just bought 10 acres, and has been told (by some environmentalist whack job - (who is also being paid with our tax dollars) that he can only touch 3 acres of it. HE BOUGHT TEN ACRES. HE PAID FOR TEN ACRES. It's not like this guy wants to set up a toxic waste dump on his own land! It's infuriating!
Sorry about all the yelling, but I get ticked off!
19 posted on 12/30/2003 10:10:27 PM PST by Just Lori (It's time to CUT the CRAP)
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To: Spanaway Lori
I know the feeling. In the 1980s, the loggers of the Olympic Peninsula, fought the envrios, and now logging on the peninsula is a just about to a standstill.
Have him take it up with the county commisoners. My commisoner is fighting the enviros all the time. Skagit county.
I remember in the 70s, The Readers Digest, had a long story on the establisment of the enviromental agency, an how dangerous it would become if not stopped, before they got to powerful. In those days, all we could say, what in the heck is an enviromental agency? In a few years we found out. It is a UN, Agenda 21, creation. They have accomplished alot, all to the benefit of the UN, and the more restrictions they can apply on property rights, the better they like it.

We need to make a list of all the things, people would like changed, and give them to
Tim. He would drive the politicans crazy. lol

Some one like Tim, is the only one politicans listen to, it hits them in the pocket, where they do not have the money for all their favorite pork projects.

I bought 5 acres on the river, and built a house on the bank over looking the river. After the enviros gained the power, I was told by the county, I would never have been able to build there now.
I guess if a person is going to buy land, the best thing would be to go to the court house, and check on the restrictions first. Was he told the restrictions before he bought, if not maybe he can do something about
it. He will have to pay taxes on the 10 acres, I bet, even tho he can't use all of the land.
20 posted on 12/30/2003 10:57:23 PM PST by calawah98
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