Judging by Dubya's past 3 years in office the answer is no. Dubya has proposed nothing to stop gun shows as President.
You posted it, my left fringe friend: answer the question.
I'm pro-life, Pro-RKBA, for taxcuts, for a strong military, and for free trade. I just think there are common sense approaches to solving the problems in the world that don't include erecting a 15 foot fence around our borders, shooting abortion doctors, or blowing up the Alfred P. Murrah building. Extremism in the pursuit of liberty invites a backlash like President Johnson. Johnson is Goldwater's legacy and the Great Society is the legacy of people on the far right fringe. They look at one statement about signing an AWB that will never pass a Republican controlled congress and forget about taxcuts, military victories, and abortion restriction. Then they say really stupid things when they are faced with a choice of Dean or Dubya like "what precisely would be the difference?" These people are my enemy because they are fighting on the side of the leftists all while fooling real conservatives and even themselves into believing they are on the side of Right. They are like little children who say "I don't want SOME, I WANT IT ALL, and if I can't have it all, I want NONE."
There are some conservative who are concerned about RKBA and felons buying guns. Do you think Americans should have any limits on buying weapon? Some far right fringers say no even to the point of nuclear weapons...after all "the Gubmint has 'em. I got my rights in the 2nd ammendment to defend myself from the tyranical gubmint!" Do felons have a right to fear the tyranical gubmint? Maybe they should be armed too? If you do have limits on arms then you are no better than Dubya and 98% of Americans...It is just a matter of degree. Tell me please how strongly you support the 2nd Ammendment.
2) Mr. Bush was 'playing politics,' and said he would sign the bill even though he really wouldn't.
I'm going with 2 Einstein. In fact I'm very proud of the job Dubya has done "playing politics." Nobody does it better than Dubya and it has paid off in some great changes for America IMO.
All warfare is based on deception - Sun Tzu's Art of War
It is strategery. Can you immagine a general on the battlefield telling his opponents how he was going to kill them? That is what many far right fringers expect from their representatives. Until Jesus comes back and runs for office the far right fringers will lose election after election because their standards for support are too high for mere humans. I guess they will just have to pine for goldwater or (snicker) write in Tom Tancredo.
If Dubya said "I will not pass an extension of the AWB EVEN if my own party passes it," he would be pounded with it day after day. Now he can say "I'm willing to sign it if Congress decides it is a necessary." When Dubya says he will sign a law that will never pass it cancels some of the votes the rats might get from moron centrist voters. The rats do the same thing...take Howard Dean for instance. Howard will tell you he is for more taxes, a weaker military, gay rights, affirmative action, socialized medicine, but he says he would only support an AWB and no more than that...can you believe that some knuckle-headed far right fringers are considering voting for Dean because they are too stupid to discern a difference between Dean and Dubya? Neither can I.
Be careful... this kind of logic might get you into big trouble around FR.
O-L: Judging by Dubya's past 3 years in office the answer is no. Dubya has proposed nothing to stop gun shows as President.
A few points:
1) Why do you need “Dubya's past 3 years in office” to judge whether a “gun show problem” exists? Do the facts of the matter somehow depend on Dubya's ‘proposals?’
2) If the facts do depend on Dubya's ‘proposals,’ why are you suddenly ignoring what Dubyah proposed as governor? After all, “dope,” “IT'S THE SAME GUY!!!”
3) Your Post #442 states: “Bush claimed the federal government should solve the gun show problem… [ Houston Chronicle, 4/27/99; Fort Worth Star-Telegram, 5/22/99 ]” Did the “gun show problem” exist in 1999, and magically disappear by 2001?
They’re simple questions – even you should be able to cobble together relevant answers.
WIJG: You posted it, my left fringe friend: answer the question.
O-L: I'm pro-life, Pro-RKBA, for taxcuts, for a strong military, and for free trade… [blah, blah, blah…]
You really should learn to read – I didn’t ask for your biography, or your ‘enemies’ list.
I just think there are common sense approaches to solving the problems in the world that don't include erecting a 15 foot fence around our borders, shooting abortion doctors, or blowing up the Alfred P. Murrah building. Extremism in the pursuit of liberty invites a backlash…
You actually equate objecting to an unconstitutional law with murder, mass murder, and terrorism? “Hey dope:” the ‘assault weapons’ ban fails to satisfy even the restrictive standards established by the Supreme Court in US v Miller - it’s blatantly unconstitutional. If there is any “extremism” around here, it emanates from air-heads like you – and if there’s any “backlash,” it is no doubt generated by extremist bullsh!t like your suggestion that 'protesting = murder’…
Then they say really stupid things when they are faced with a choice of Dean or Dubya like "what precisely would be the difference?"
If you had bothered (or been able ;>) to read, you would know that the comparison was between laws, not candidates:
!1776!: The libs version [of the ‘assault weapon’ ban] would be much worse.
Really? We'll see if Mr. Bush signs an extension of the 'assault weapons' ban. If it's as bad as (or worse than ;>) the original 1994 "libs version," what precisely would be the difference?
398 posted on 12/30/2003 5:42:18 PM PST by Who is John Galt?
“You now know that you are ignorant”…
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There are some conservative who are concerned about RKBA and felons buying guns.
So, now you’re saying that there IS a “gun show problem?” You just told us that “(j)udging by Dubya's past 3 years in office,” the problem doesn’t even “exist.” Which is it, “Madam Cleo?”
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WIJG: [Or are you suggesting that] 2) Mr. Bush was 'playing politics,' and said he would sign the [‘assault weapons’] bill even though he really wouldn't.
O-L: I'm going with 2 Einstein.
So you’re telling us Mr. Bush is a liar? You sound like one of the Nine Dwarves! Personally, I would never suggest such a thing. A friend from West Texas sat down to lunch with Mr. Bush a while back, and tells me the President is an honest man. You apparently believe otherwise.
Until Jesus comes back and runs for office the far right fringers will lose election after election because their standards for support are too high for mere humans.
ROTFLMAO! ‘You can’t expect the President to tell the truth! You can’t expect him to honor the Constitution! Your standards are too high for mere humans! TOOO HIIIGH!!!’ You’re nothing but a de facto Clinton apologist! No wonder you whine so much about “far right fringers!” And it certainly explains the link in your Post #442 to the anti-Bush ‘hate’ site...
If Dubya said "I will not pass an extension of the AWB EVEN if my own party passes it," he would be pounded with it day after day.
“Hey dope:” why would he have to say that? Hmm? FWIW, if he did issue such a strange and unnecessary statement, and got “pounded” at all, it would be by only half of your ‘enemies’ list: the “leftists,” rather than “right fringe.” (Funny how your “enemy” supposedly includes both the “left” and the “right!” Guess that makes you ‘middle of the road’ - a “moron centrist voter”… ;>)
Now he can say "I'm willing to sign it if Congress decides it is a necessary."
“If Congress decides?” I thought Mr. Bush swore an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution? (I guess your copy of the Constitution doesn’t include Article I, Section 7, Clause 2. What a shame… ;>) Looks like you consider him a ‘slave of Congress’...
When Dubya says he will sign a law that will never pass it cancels some of the votes the rats might get from moron centrist voters. The rats do the same thing...take Howard Dean for instance.
OUCH! Now you’re comparing Mr. Bush to - Howard Dean!?! Really? You were just telling us a few lines back how “really stupid” it is to compare the two men and suggest that they are similar. Here you suggest that Mr. Bush is a liar, and so is Howard Dean. You’re an amazingly obvious hypocrite, my friend.
...can you believe that some knuckle-headed far right fringers are considering voting for Dean because they are too stupid to discern a difference between Dean and Dubya?
Based on your written characterization of both Dubya and Dean as lying politicians, the “too stupid” label is just as applicable to you, “Einstein,” as it is to any other ‘knuckle-head’...
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