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To: !1776!
Congress shouldn't be passing such bills, the President shouldn't be signing them into law, and if the first two checks and balances don't work the courts certainly should be protecting our Constitutional rights.

The courts? Dream on...

The reality of the situation is all three checks are failing the Constitution right now. The only way to really fix the problem is with a team that requires victories in all three branches. Restoring courts that respect the Constitution takes time. Populating a Congress willing to do the same takes a great deal of effort also.

True.

But in the end, a President who veto's gun ban legislation can still be over ridden...

Give me a f@cking break! You do the math - are you honestly suggesting that there are enough anti-constitution votes in Congress to over ride Mr. Bush's veto? Is that what you are really saying? If so, the Republican Party is "toast"...

We have problems to fix, I just think it will take time and effort. I also expect setbacks throughout the process. But in my opinion the only long term solution to restoring our rights is through continuous expansion of conservative values in all branches of government.

The "continuous expansion of conservative values in all branches of government" does NOT include signing bills that should be - and can be - vetoed. Ignoring the President's veto power is just plain "stoopid"...

Anyway, hope you are having a good start to the new year.

As good as can be expected. And as I'm sure you know, we agree on more than we disagree - 'Happy New Year' to you, my friend!

;>)

498 posted on 01/01/2004 5:44:31 PM PST by Who is John Galt? ("Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press..." - Amendment I)
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To: Who is John Galt?
The "continuous expansion of conservative values in all branches of government" does NOT include signing bills that should be - and can be - vetoed. Ignoring the President's veto power is just plain "stoopid"...

Stoopid, maybe, but ignoring the realities of the situation is no better. If it takes acouple herniea's on the way,, count me in. Won't be fun, but, I'll try to do my part.

As good as can be expected. And as I'm sure you know, we agree on more than we disagree - 'Happy New Year' to you, my friend!

Of course we agree more, we wouldn't be so sprited in our debates if we didn't. I always apreciate a debate that makesme challenge my principles. Without that I'd never learn more.

Thanks, and may the best of your past be the worst of your future my friend.

525 posted on 01/05/2004 8:40:44 PM PST by !1776!
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