[Consort]

Uncontrolled borders is one side of the problem; the millions of illegals that are already here are another problem. Fixing the borders solves the first problem but does not address the second one.
The next amnesty will not be the first nor will it be the last. We're talking about millions of illegals (figitives) who are not leaving and will not be hunted down and deported. It will cost much more socially, culturally, monetarily.....you name it...for them to remain as fugitives. It looks like amnesty is the heavy price we will pay for generations of uncontrolled borders. We did this to ourselves.

[Consort]

(figitives) = (fugitives)

[Naspino]

Fixing the borders solves the first problem but does not address the second one.

GOD this is so frustrating. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? Fix the borders? We have over 88,000 miles of shoreline if you include islands. We have some of the largest borders in the world. We have the largest shipping fleet in the world. We have more continental flights than any country in the world. Everyone says close the borders -- fix the border problem. How? Has anyone thought beyond that statement?

[libertylass]

I didn't do it. You didn't do it. We have been fighting this for years. We have been victimized.

Let's start by deporting the criminals. Then we start by fining the employers who are hiring illegals. Next, deport the illegal or at least undocumented gang members by rescinding Special Order 40. Most of the millions of illegals already here have green cards. Probably illegally through false documents and S.S.#'s, but that should appease some of you bleeding-hearts. Clinton and Bush both allowed illegals a certain amount of time to register with the INS, but they didn't. So, forget that idea.

There are many ways to undo some of the damage and to send a clear message to those waiting to cross.

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