[neverdem]

FWIW, lets not forget all the trouble caused by the feminists. How else do you have classes like this? Imagine what would happen if there were classes just for white males. Happy New Year

[JustPlainJoe]

-"Researchers say the obstacles keeping black men from earning college degrees include poor education before college, the low expectations that teachers and others have for them, a lack of black men as role models, their dropout rate from high school and GEORGE W. BUSH!"-

[AppyPappy]

He also told them about trips he had made to stores recently, dressed in jeans and sneakers, and being followed by security guards

Hell, I'd drop out of college too if that happened to me.

[ken5050]

It's way to unPC to ask why are they in college in the first place...of course, they're really NOT, because they're doing High school work....employers in NYC know that the valus of the HS degree, and even the local college degrees, are worthless...

[shotgun]

Here are two answers: 1) Increase the number of players on the basketball team from 12 to 250 (all on scholarship BTW)or 2) prevent them from going into the NBA before they graduate...

[B.L. Zebub]

Things were not going well on the job, either. He skipped a day of work, he said, because he had no money.

Well, he may be a total loser, but his skin pigmentation is way cool!

[Kozak]

One problem was money. He started a job at the college television studio — a job Dr. Jackson lined up for him — but he said that working 25 hours a week interfered with his studying.

Things were not going well on the job, either. He skipped a day of work, he said, because he had no money. He could have walked to work, but he said it was hard to walk around school with nothing in his pocket.

Oh boo frickin hoo. Whines because he can't manage a part time job, whines because he has no money. Gee, I guess no else has ever had to overcome such insuperable obstacles.

[AdamSelene235]

As a black man, he is also a rare commodity that the college, part of the City University of New York, is eager to hold on to

Nice, institutionalized racism has taken us back 150 years to a time where human beings were considered commodities due to their skin color.

[pogo101]

Colleges Struggle to Help Black Men Stay Enrolled

"White students, however, can go s***w themselves."

/sarcasm

[Old Professer]

A college class that teaches students to bring books to school has a long hard road ahead.

[SpinyNorman]

Researchers say the obstacles keeping black men from earning college degrees include poor education before college, the low expectations that teachers and others have for them, a lack of black men as role models, their dropout rate from high school and their own low aspirations.

Is it just me, or are every one of these "obstacles" under the firm control of the liberal teacher's unions, or so called "black leaders?"

Seriously, with role models like Walter Williams, one of my personal role models, how can they claim not to have educated black men as role models? Nobody can seriously say blacks are any less intelligent than whites, or in this case, black women. Maybe a little less hero worship of NBA players and rappers, and a little more positive reinforcement in the form of elevating, rather than criticizing and ostracizing those regarded by mot blacks as "Uncle Toms" and "Aunt Jemimahs" might do more for their self esteem and eventual success than the current methods.

[Spok]

I'm someone knows where this came from, but this story is so good it's worth repeating:
My grandfather could not get into Harvard because he was Jewish. Then came the civil rights movement and affirmative action. Now, I can't get into Harvard because I'm Jewish...

[Benrand]

Recently, Howard University, a historically black college in Washington, D.C., sponsored a symposium on the absence of black men in higher education. Women outnumber men by about 2 to 1 at Howard.

Woah! get me some shoe polish!

[aliquis]

...Researchers say the obstacles keeping black men from earning college degrees include poor education before college, the low expectations that teachers and others have for them, a lack of black men as role models, their dropout rate from high school and their own low aspirations...

Well, that's a relief, then. Thank god, it's not their fault. They just have a cannot-cope-with-my-life compulsive disorder. Or, alternatively, it's the collective greedy hand of 'Stupid White Men'...

[mountaineer]

Shoved off the college prep track, they begin a "cycle of being reprimanded, disciplined and ultimately suspended for negative behavior," she said, leading to expulsion, unemployment and even crime and imprisonment.

Of course, these young men are not responsible for their own "negative" behavior, and therefore should not be expected to suffer the consequences, e.g., punishment.

[stop_fascism]

Obviously, the only fair thing to do would be to give a degree to any male who showed up and claimed to be black. Save time and money and make up for their horrible head start experience.

[beckett]

"It's the shame of American higher education," said Arthur E. Levine, the president of Teachers College at Columbia University.

Heaven forbid he place the blame where it belongs -- on the failed student.

[madprof98]

From the 1970s on, I taught in a college whose student body was almost entirely black. At first, men outnumbered women. Most were veterans getting GI benefits, and they were familiar with the world in a way that high-school grads often are not. It was a pleasure to teach them. By the time I retired, a couple years ago, almost all the students were women. It was rare to have even a single male student in a class. The women were sometimes older but very, very limited in life-experience. Teaching them was a struggle.

During those same years, the African-American family essentially collapsed. The illegitimacy rate went from about 25% to 70% and most of the students were coming up in single-parent female-headed households. The Times, of course, would not dare speak about this as the cause of anything bad, but I think it really accounts for most of the ills in black America today, including the failure of young men to aspire to anything much in life--and to whine like women about every little setback, as the losers in this article do.

[Khurkris]

I fail to see motivation in these 'students.' It looks like the administrators are experimenting on these young men. Perhaps they do have the best of intentions; but I seem to detect an ongoing system of enabling.

It just looks like a perpetuation of mal-adjusted behaviour.

Even with the reponsibilities of parenthood and maintaining a job that was literally handed to them, I don't see these men stepping up and acting as they should.

[Kelly4023]

This reply is posted in reply to ALL of the posts. I am a college educated Black male, who, after flunking out of
my first college, decided I needed an education. After my first foray in college, I had to pay for the next 4 I went to. After a start and a stop and a start again,
I have a graduate dergee. Every school I went to (in the North East) was the same: lots of women, lots of white males and females, fewer black men.
The "intelligence" (if you can call it that)that responded to the original post suggests that Black (American!)
men are lazy, unmotivated, undeserving, and shiftless connivers looking for a hand out. Very 1960's.
"Why can't they all just be like Walt Williams or John McWhorter?" I grew up with "why can't you (or youse guys) be like Geroge Washington Carver, or Ralph Bunch? Why can't all white guys be like Bill Gates or (dare I say) Ted Williams?
ANSWER: because we are not all alike. We ALL aspire, wether you appreciate it or not.
Some of us need the positive help being delivered by the men doing the job written about.
It is remarkable how much I encounter bigotry and moaning on this site, especially in the face of someone doing something positive for some, especially Black people.
I understand what a lot of young PEOPLE go through. Many of us really don't have a clue when we'er going through school, or even well into college, of what we want to do. That ambivelance is very hard to deal with. Some PEOPLE even drop out of school (!) because it is so strong.

I know NO ONE reading this post has ever suffered with and made mistakes due to their ambivelance.
Some of you want to call this Laziness. In saome cases, it is, but in how many?
I have what I have today because God saw fit for me to have it, and I worked my butt off to get it. Part of the struggle was with me, though: through what I had and hadn't learned, what I thought I wanted versus what I knew I could get, and my environment.
There is a correlation between education and criminal activity: the higher the education, the lower the incidence of criminal activity. (I'll make that lower level criminal activity in deference to Michael Milkin
and Barbara Stewart).
NO excuses: you get what you get by working for it.
Why complain when some people get taught that they
actually have the tools? Or have we forgotton what Black people were taught about America and themselves (especially men) not too long ago?
Oh, yes, this is a new America, where none of that stuff counts anymore.

As Always:
"K"

[Xenalyte]

Watching Simon Jackson in class is like watching a man who is conflicted about being in college.

"Conflict" is a noun or a verb. It is NOT an adjective, no matter how you warp it. Sheesh.