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To: Hank Kerchief
Truth sets you free from ignorance. This is a Biblical reference that states that once one knows the truth, then he is set free from the bondage of ignorance. Paul said this:

Romans 8:9
"You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ."

In other words, before he came to know G-d, he had but one nature, now he had two: the nature of flesh (i.e. faith in the world, and the nature (and inclination) to follow after the Spirit of G-d))--in other words, trust in the world, or trust in G-d. Ultimately, we are seeing the whole world lining up on this battle front (either man will ultimately solve his problems, or G-d will.) What Paul meant by 'The truth will set you free,' is that once you understand that the battle is not of this world (or these principalities,) but is a battle of both the physical and spiritual universes (both the world and Heaven battle continuously.) Jesus said that he came to save only the people that needed to be saved (rescued), so, in that context, I am one of those that recognize that to be controlled by the world only is to be a slave of the world: That is the Truth. I am free of the ignorance (and blindness of the world), and even though I am still weak, as Paul quoted Jesus: 'My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.' So, my strength is not up to me or my own wisdom--therefore, there is a stronger power than me - that is what the truth 'means.'
90 posted on 12/30/2003 1:14:56 PM PST by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: richardtavor
In other words, before he came to know G-d, he had but one nature, now he had two ...

So, essentially what you are saying is that a Christian is someone who suffers from multiple personality disorder, one controled by the old sinful nature inherited from Adam becasue of Adam's sin, the other implanted by the holy spirit, and the Christian spends the rest of his life being pulled first by one nature and then pulled by the other, completely unstable and enslaved by these two forces over which he has no control. Some freedom!

Even James saw through that Augustinian hoax: James 1:8 "A double minded man is unstable in all his ways."

I don't mind your preaching the Bible to me, but at least make it the Bible, not this Augustinian/Calvinistic nonsense about a sinful nature and two natures. Thanks!

Hank

119 posted on 12/30/2003 5:47:11 PM PST by Hank Kerchief
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