Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: possible
The usual meaning of "purpose" is, I suppose, something like "the aim of an intelligent agent".

...

I understand that you do not believe in God. Thus, I can't make any sense of your reference to "purpose" with respect to the life of a simple organism. What do you mean by the word?

With regard to rational beings, purpose means just what you have indicated, one's intention, or goal, or "aim." But the word also is used of any action that has a specific result.

Life is a self-sustained process. It is at once both the means and the end. Since life does not exist independently of living organisms, and to sustain itself, the life process must sustain itself as an organsim, the purpose of the life of an organism is to sustain the organism.

But notice, to sustain itself, an organism cannot do just anything. What it must do to survive is determined by the nature of the organism. Except for man, organisms that are not defective always act in the way their nature requires. The automatic pattern of behavior non-rational organisms are provided by their nature is called instinct.

I understand that you do not believe in God, is a presumption. I do not know what you mean by God. Who knows, I might believe in God, if a rational (understandable) definition, without floating abstractions and stolen concepts were provided.

Hank

262 posted on 01/03/2004 7:09:17 AM PST by Hank Kerchief
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 260 | View Replies ]


To: Hank Kerchief
"I understand that you do not believe in God" is a presumption. I do not know what you mean by God. Who knows, I might believe in God, if a rational (understandable) definition, without floating abstractions and stolen concepts were provided.

Please excuse the presumption.

If I say there is an elephant in the room, this may be false, but it is understandable. Similarly, if I say someone created the universe, you may disagree, but it hardly seems unintelligible. Do you understand the word create? Do you understand the word universe?

264 posted on 01/06/2004 8:52:05 AM PST by possible
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 262 | View Replies ]

To: Hank Kerchief
With regard to rational beings, purpose means just what you have indicated, one's intention, or goal, or "aim." But the word also is used of any action that has a specific result.

Life is a self-sustained process. It is at once both the means and the end. Since life does not exist independently of living organisms, and to sustain itself, the life process must sustain itself as an organsim, the purpose of the life of an organism is to sustain the organism.

But notice, to sustain itself, an organism cannot do just anything. What it must do to survive is determined by the nature of the organism. Except for man, organisms that are not defective always act in the way their nature requires. The automatic pattern of behavior non-rational organisms are provided by their nature is called instinct.

I'll agree that living things have a nature. One aspect of the nature is to sustain life. Another is to die. Another is to reproduce. Without reproduction, extinction comes quickly.

What's the next step in the reasoning from observable evidence to the conclusion that theft is wrong?

265 posted on 01/06/2004 9:00:16 AM PST by possible
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 262 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson