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To: G. Stolyarov II
Just as a FYI, you really really need to pick up a copy of Leviathan (Thomas Hobbes). It will show you why American values are not only compatible with religion, but could never have been conceived in the first place without it! It's not accidental, or through lack of argumentative ability on the part of the objectivist, that theories along those cannot stand up to even simple logical analysis.
142 posted on 12/30/2003 8:09:51 PM PST by thoughtomator ("I will do whatever the Americans want because I saw what happened in Iraq, and I was afraid"-Qadafi)
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To: thoughtomator
Leviathan, an American foundation??? Hobbes was the antithesis of Locke, and it was in Lockean ideas of individual rights and individual political and moral agency that American liberties and our system of government were born.
145 posted on 12/30/2003 8:13:34 PM PST by G. Stolyarov II (http://www.geocities.com/rationalargumentator/index19.html)
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