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Poll: Bush, Hillary Clinton Most Admired
Newsday.com ^ | 12-29-03 | Associated Press

Posted on 12/29/2003 10:13:32 PM PST by Salvation

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To: Salvation
I'm not surprised that Hillary won. People who don't follow the news like her. I know someone who doesn't watch Fox News or listen to talk radio, and she thinks Hillary is such a wonderful person. I tried to fill her in, and she was shocked.
41 posted on 12/30/2003 3:45:11 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: No Dems 2004
I can never understand how ANYBODY could admire a low-level opportunist like Hillary Clinton.

They don't know that she is "a low-level opportunist". You can thank America's MOST DESTRUCTIVE and RELENTLESS ENEMY, the mainstream media for that ignorance on their part!

42 posted on 12/30/2003 4:02:03 AM PST by thesummerwind (Images of broken light which dance before me like a million eyes)
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To: thesummerwind
This needs vomit pictures for sure.
43 posted on 12/30/2003 4:33:32 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (No words were harmed during the production of this tagline.)
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To: thesummerwind
The tape of Hillary needs to be played over and over again.
44 posted on 12/30/2003 4:35:43 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (No words were harmed during the production of this tagline.)
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To: Tim Osman
Puke!
45 posted on 12/30/2003 4:46:11 AM PST by DooDahhhh
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To: Salvation
It's important we don't forget this or we could be in for an ugly surprise later on. The fact is loads of people in the center and on the left admire Hillary and Bill. It is all well and good for us to joke about it here and act as if everyone on the planet has similar views but it's getting to be crunch time again- elections.

If Hillary gets on the democratic ticket somehow, we can defeat her but not by ignoring the fact that lots of people do in fact admire her. I say this poll is good intel and we should use it wisely.

Dean is a sure fire loser if he gets the nomination. But a Clark/Clinton ticket is not such a sure fire loser. I would like to have more faith in the American people but this same American public elected X42 twice. Something to think about, they would probably have elected him again if he had run a third time. Imagine that- right now Slick still in office.

I think the Clintons have rightly sussed that the American people largely vote emotionally and based upon appearances rather than substance. If, as many dems have concluded, a dem candidate must be strong on defense issues and foreign policy, Clark, if handled effectively, could be molded into the proper form in a way the other dem candidates have no hope of achieving. Now, before anybody gets all puffed up and starts pointing out the particulars of Clark's career, I'm telling you those things won't matter. When he's talking about defense, he'll put on his General cap and people will see those stars and that will be substance enough for them. His managers will spin his military career as if he were the reincarnation of Sun Tzu. Count on it.

With Hillary on the ticket, he would get a huge emotional boost.

We would do well not to ignore this danger.

46 posted on 12/30/2003 5:02:29 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Conspiracy Guy
The tape of Hillary needs to be played over and over again.

Who is going to play it --- SeeBS, NBC, ABC, CNN?

Will NPR play the sound on their stations? Nah!

The mainstream media is still a relentlessly liberal, socialist/one-worlder anti-American tool, and until the ownership of that media is changed, this country is doomed!

47 posted on 12/30/2003 5:03:20 AM PST by thesummerwind (Images of broken light which dance before me like a million eyes)
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To: thesummerwind
You are right on all points.
48 posted on 12/30/2003 5:03:54 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (No words were harmed during the production of this tagline.)
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To: John Lenin
"If Hitlery is a role model for American women something is definitely wrong in this country."

Yup.
49 posted on 12/30/2003 5:09:32 AM PST by ought-six
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To: Dr. Scarpetta; billorites; Lazamataz; Straight Pipes; Conspiracy Guy; woodyinscc; Incorrigible; ...
I know someone who doesn't watch Fox News or listen to talk radio, and she thinks Hillary is such a wonderful person. I tried to fill her in, and she was shocked.

Shocked, I tell you! Ha!

The great number of American voters who are clueless on the real Hillary is HUGE! And that's the way the mainstream media owners want it. It's all nearly one big club, who nearly share one agenda (profits is an aside, IMO). They are the remnants of the marxists who came to America back around 100 years ago. Their work is nearly complete. They own and operate a great majority of the influence altering institutions in the country - publishing, electronic and print media, television (news), Hollywierd, the music industry, even the ever-demeaning porn industry. They are out to deconstruct the Founders' excellent creation, and they are quite successful in their efforts.

Your friend, who is clueless on Hillary, is just one of millions of the media's creations, an ignorant, dangerous voter.

50 posted on 12/30/2003 5:19:06 AM PST by thesummerwind (Images of broken light which dance before me like a million eyes)
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To: thesummerwind
I'll second that!
51 posted on 12/30/2003 5:25:29 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (No words were harmed during the production of this tagline.)
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To: thesummerwind
The Clintoon series.

Billary

It was indeed the darkest time,
We barely made it through.
The blame for this I place upon,
Your cronies and yes you.
Eight years of you and Hillary,
Were more than we could bear.
You stopped air traffic needlessly,
While someone cut your hair
I wish you’d show a little class,
And get out of my face.
But one good thing is those you help,
Most often lose their race.
So hang around and lend support,
To those who would enslave us.
As tired as I am of you Bill,
You really helped Gray Davis.

Conspiracy Guy 10/24/03

Hitlery

You hate the country of your birth,
You’d sell your soul to crush it.
You fight the things that made us great,
Your own demise please rush it.
New York put their faith in you,
Yes it was placed so poorly.
You will indeed soon be replaced,
They need a change so sorely.
So keep it up, your hate and scorn,
And you they will attack.
By the way I’ve heard that Satan,
Wants to buy his soul back

Conspiracy Guy 10/24/03
52 posted on 12/30/2003 5:26:21 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (No words were harmed during the production of this tagline.)
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To: Prodigal Son
After the Clintons have come to realize that the good Doc Dean can't be stopped (unless The Doc goes down in an unfortunate, mysterious, and unexpected campaign plane crash), I look for the possibility of Bill and 'The Beast' ENDORSING Clark.

You are right about the (reincarnation of Sun Tzu) thing.

If the endorsement doesn't look like enough against Bush in the polls, Hillary jumps in as Presidential candidate or poor/puppet Clark's VP.

We'll see.

53 posted on 12/30/2003 5:29:08 AM PST by thesummerwind (Images of broken light which dance before me like a million eyes)
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To: thesummerwind
Your friend, who is clueless on Hillary, is just one of millions of the media's creations, an ignorant, dangerous voter.

I forgot to mention, that in addition to not being aware of Fox News or talk radio, this lady never heard of Free Republic. Try asking people you know about FR, and chances are they also never heard of it. More people are uninformed than we think.

54 posted on 12/30/2003 5:29:48 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Conspiracy Guy
By the way I’ve heard that Satan,

Wants to buy his soul back

********

Satan will buy it back at only 'wholesale', Hillary is insisting on 'retail'!

'The Stalinist Non-cookie Baker' is even worse than her hero, Saul 'Anythinggoes' Alinsky.

55 posted on 12/30/2003 5:37:24 AM PST by thesummerwind (Images of broken light which dance before me like a million eyes)
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To: CyberAnt
Isn't Newsday ultra liberal ..??

I can vouch for that. Sadly, it's my "local" paper.

56 posted on 12/30/2003 5:40:14 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: CyberAnt
"Isn't Newsday Ultra Liberal?"

Yes, if we are talking about Newsday of Long Island.

It is the leftist rag I have ever read. I get calls to subscribe all of the time; I normally laugh and hang up on the poor dolt.

They hate Bush with a passion; cheer for Hitlery and the left cause any chance they get. Good for cleaning windows, that's it.
57 posted on 12/30/2003 5:41:58 AM PST by PigRigger (Send donations to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org)
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To: thesummerwind
She's already made statements about wanting to 'save' the democratic party. I would reckon that will be her justification for breaking her promise not to run. I figure she'll add the additional spin like so:

New York would lose her as senator if she won, but as VP she could break ties in the Senate with her vote and this vote would always benefit the people of New York. She'll say New York will have two and a half votes in the Senate in a way.

Also, she will likely say that if the Clark/Clinton ticket wins all Americans win- New Yorkers as well.

If she's lucky, her PR people will be able to spin things so that during the campaign some people might groan and think to themselves "Oh, not this Whitewater/Monica sh!t again..." The GOP should be very careful in how they select themes from the Clinton years to bring up again. Overdo it and it could backfire with the public.

58 posted on 12/30/2003 5:44:02 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: thesummerwind
After the Clintons have come to realize that the good Doc Dean can't be stopped

Also, what they really need to do is stop him from running on a third ticket- which he is somewhat threatening to do. A simple endorsement won't be enough to stop him from doing so. They'll have to dig up some good dirt on him to make his candidacy unviable for any party. If Dean runs on a third ticket, the dems wouldn't have a chance in hell of winning.

59 posted on 12/30/2003 5:46:24 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Salvation
OMG!!! Need a huge barf alert for this one..

60 posted on 12/30/2003 5:47:58 AM PST by The Mayor (Those who love and serve God on earth will feel at home in heaven.)
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