[Orangedog]

The divorce and custody laws have turned the institution of marriage in a joke, and an financially and emotionally costly one at that. The lives of tens of millions of men and their children have been completely turned upside down. Where was the defense of marriage crowd when that was happening? A lot of them couldn't be bothered with their problems. I'll even go out on a limb and assert that many of them were cheering on the movement that labeled every father a "deadbeat" and made them visitors in the lives of their children.

I hope the defense or marriage people aren't seriously expecting those of us that have been (and still are being) screwed over by what is called marriage today to carry any of their water after society as a whole has turned it's back on us. From our perspective, what's left of this "institution" isn't anything we're going to get worked up to defend.

[NutCrackerBoy]

I don't know whether or not I am a member of "the defense of marriage crowd," I am just an Internet forum participant. That said, marriage is still at this moment something that matters, and I am more than amenable to reforms. Unfortunately, this piece here did not give me a clear sense of where the reform battleground is and how it relates to the marriage redefinition problem.

[inquest]

There's much more at stake here than marriage. If judges are allowed to get away with this, they'll just get worse and worse, and the problems you face with the courts will be that much further beyond your ability to do anything about it.

I'm not sure what exactly motivates you to be on this board, but I'm assuming you believe in constitutional government. That's what I'm fighting for when I'm calling for the impeachment of the judges who made this, and many other abominable rulings on a whole range of subjects.

So what are you fighting for, if you don't mind my asking?

[jwalsh07]

I'm not cheering on anybody if the truth be told. I am jeering at judicial tyranny in all its forms. I welcome you to join me.