“Never Forget: They Kept Lots of Slaves” (the Founding Fathers)

NRO ^ | 12/29/2003 | Michael Knox Beran

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[Guillermo]

Will they mention that Western, "white" culture is the *ONLY* culture to have outlawed slavery?

[LiteKeeper]

read later - FOUNDERS

[Utah Girl]

Exactly right. They forget that tiny little detail, and ignore the countries that still allow slavery, like the Sudan.

[edger]

The author of this piece of mush might benefit by reading what Thomas Sowell has to say about slavery.

[Guillermo]

I would venture to say there is governmentally condoned slavery in the vast majority of countries on earth.

In just about every African nation, in every Arab nation, and every Asian ation with the exception of Japan and Singapore, slavery exists.

[armymarinemom]

Exactly right. They forget that tiny little detail, and ignore the countries that still allow slavery, like the Sudan.

Bingo!! Our past history with slavery should never be forgotten nor should it be used as a crutch. You would think that emphasis would be placed on the obliteration of slavery in our current world instead of crying over the past.

[tracer]

Don't rush to judgement re: japan and Singapore.....

[Becki]

"Never Forget: They Kept Lots of Slaves,"

IIRC, so did Mohammed.

And he is worshipped.

Becki

[CobaltBlue]

Not all of the Founding Fathers kept slaves. John Adams never had slaves. Ben Franklin had a couple but freed them during his lifetime and became an abolitionist. Many of the others freed theirs upon their death, e.g. George Washington.

Slavery, of course, was a very ugly thing, but the abolitionist movement didn't really get going until around 1787, so I think it's unrealistic to judge the Founding Fathers against that movement until it became well established, but certainly by the time the Constitution was drafted and ratified, there was strong public sentiment against slavery, especially in the North.

So I think it's fair to examine the lives of our Founding Fathers and the way they dealt with such an important moral issue of their day. Some come off rather well. Jefferson, in contrast, comes across quite badly. He was unable to free his slaves because he lived beyond his means and died in terrible debt.

As much as I love old Tom, he was a terrible humbug sometimes.

[William Terrell]

"Never Forget: They Kept Lots of Slaves"
"Never Forget: Their Genius Freed all Slaves"

[Othniel]

Never forget: Jesse Jackson, Sharpton, and others who race-bait like this are a bunch of @$$holes.

Also, never forget that the slaves who were imported to America were captured by other blacks.

[Qwinn]

"Never forget: They Killed Millions of Infants" (Liberals)

Qwinn

[FrankR]

"Never Forget: They Kept Lots of Slaves” (the Founding Fathers"

The entire article is completely irrelevant and has no bearing on the subject at the moment.

Slavery has been against the law since any living person can remember. What happened back then, NO ONE can help now...no one, not even the Holier-than-thou liberals and libertarians can GO BACK and change anything.

This is another in the long succession of democRAT playbook ploys to:

a) try to distort history, and re-write it to suit their particular purposes of inciting discontent amongst African Americans...none of whom were slaves are even still living.

b) another frail attempt at piling more guilt on all persons of caucasion descent for slave ownership from over 200 years ago.

It's a bad way to put it, but that is the way things were done in those days. There was even slavery up north, as well.

Many things were accepted during different time frames of history, and we were not there to be able to judge it now. Remember when smoking was "in vogue"? In the 50's and 60's, if you DIDN'T smoke, you were an outsider.

I once heard that "...all races have had their Kings, and all races have had their Slaves..." I'm sure there is some truth in that. But you never hear this in the selective history re-writes of the liberals.

As we fall head long into being a "Nanny State", one of the tricks of an old Nanny seems to be in effect...the "guilt trip". Liberals push for their way by telling us things like, it will be OUR fault if the Earth perishes from GLOBAL WARMING. Or, Old folks will have to eat DOG FOOD if we don't pass the latest handout bill in Congress.

Then, if it's not a "gonna do" guilt trip, it's a historic guilt trip...like in the article of question.

The one that really floors me is the new and ultimate love for all things European. We fought and died to get out of Europe and discover America. To get to things like the now-abused FREEDOM OF RELIGION, etc., (notice that is not Freedom FROM Religion). Then we fought and died on more than one occasion to protect and liberate a lot of those countries...who have now turned on us. BUt the libs think we should STRIVE to be just like Europe. Whaaaaa?

Well, I'm suffering from liberal fatigue, and all of their sophmoric ideas and ideals. Most of their theories and ideas are college clap-trap which includes only plans for their continued wealth and power, and NOT what is good for America.

I think it's time for someone to stand up, with a National Megaphone, and tell them to shut the hell up. What they are saying and doing is - IMHO - Un-American...even treasonous. Most of the media in this country report like they just got off the boat from Russia and a Pravda job over there. The media in America has become a mouthpiece for the liberals - because most of the media is made up of liberals.

YES - liberals and minorities of America...people, INCLUDING OUR FOUNDING FATHERS - owned Slaves way back then. Now, we all know it, and we feel a momentary collective sigh about it. BUT, WE CAN'T CHANGE IT. Civil Rights didn't come into play until the 1960's.

My question is to the liberals...if slavery way back then was so unacceptable, why didn't your 1776 counterparts protest against it and cause some societal change?

Why did it take you LIBERALS 200 years to get civil rights laws enacted and enforced? Didn't you liberals CARE about the Slaves back then. Oh...wait...MAYBE because it was part of the American (and other countries) scene back then...(Gosh, can I really say it?)...maybe...maybe...LIBERALS ACCEPTED SLAVERY TOO...WAY BACK THEN.

Nahhh...couldn't be...we know that libs are morally superior to everyone...retroactive back to the beginning of time...oops...s'cuse me...I mean the beginning of evolution. Rant off

[Prime Choice]

Why is it that the people who are so eager to forgive the 9/11 terrorists are the same ones who spent the rest of their time giving birth to broken glass over stuff that happened TWO CENTURIES AGO?

Once again, their anti-Americanism shines through all the bull****.

[CaptIsaacDavis]

NEVER FORGET -- LIBERALS WERE APOLOGISTS FOR SOVIET IMPERIALISM AND COMMUNIST MASS MURDER

NEVER FORGET -- THE NEW YORK TIMES WAS A PROPAGANDA ORGAN FOR STALIN COURTESY OF COMRADE DURANTY.

[COEXERJ145]

I hate revisionist historians.

They're one of the main reasons I studied history in college and am planning to go for my M.A. starting next year and one of these days my PhD.