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Questions and Answers: What's Wrong With Letting Same-Sex Couples "Marry?"
Family Research Council ^
| DEC 03
| Mr. Peter Sprigg
Posted on 12/28/2003 3:42:30 PM PST by Federalist 78
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To: Federalist 78
I am not anti-gay, I am God fearing. Thus I totally disagree with same sex marriages. This is a topic that should have remained behind closed (tightly) doors. I support private personal preference.
To: little jeremiah
ping
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posted on
12/28/2003 5:29:58 PM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army and Proud of It!)
To: Federalist 78
We need to start some good ol' persecution on these people again... then then will be thankful for how good they have it now.
These guys are like Muslims... they will work for a truce when they're getting their butts kicked, but the moment they have the power to do so they will impose their way on everyone else.
We need to drive homosexuality underground again, through ostracism and education.
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posted on
12/28/2003 5:57:14 PM PST
by
thoughtomator
("I will do whatever the Americans want because I saw what happened in Iraq, and I was afraid"-Qadafi)
To: Ronly Bonly Jones
The only reason why the leftists support it is because homosexual sex patterns (with its hundreds or even thousands of sex partners) makes the "normal" heterosexual leftists (with there mere score or so of sex partners) seem "normal" by comparisonThey support it because the power to define reality by decree is needed to implement socialism.
What a few gay boys are doing in the bushes is of no significance to them.
To: *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform; scripter; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; ...
Homosexual Agenda Ping List - looks like the definitive article about same sex marriage. Just got back from being gone all day and haven't read it yet. I would suggest saving this one and using it for arguments - I think it covers everything.
If anyone wants on or off this ping list, ping me!
To: Federalist 78
That's why I'm Little Jeremiah - the original one gives me inspiration!
To: Ronly Bonly Jones
Hey why not they got cake toppers already
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posted on
12/28/2003 8:07:50 PM PST
by
al baby
(Ice cream does not have bones)
To: Federalist 78
MARRIAGE IS ONE OF THE SEVEN GREAT SACRAMENTS. IT IS A RELIGIOUS SACRAMENT.
THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN ISSUES THAT CONCERN CHURCH AND STATE! (Have you heard that one before?)
REMEMBER: THAT IF BEING BEING ABLE TO SAY "JESUS" IN SCHOOL IS A BIG "NO-NO"; AND IF WE CAN'T HAVE A MANGER DISPLAYED IN PUBLIC AT CHRISTMAS TIME; OR THE TEN COMMANDMENTS IN ANY PUBLIC PLACE AT ANY TIME,WE COULD ULTIMATELY BE IN GRAVE DANGER OF LOSING OUR FOUR FREEDOMS.(The Honorable Judge Roy Moore comes to mind.)
WHY SHOULD THE GOVERNMENT BE OCCUPIED WITH THE MERE THOUGHT OF PERMITTING "WEIRD" PEOPLE TO "MARRY".
"MARRIAGE" IS A RELIGIOUS SACRAMENT.
To: Federalist 78
Well, it's been about 4 and a half hours since you posted this and the pro-homosexual/marriage crowd hasn't shown up. But the article seems to have clear, precise answers to all their arguments anyway.
Here's a bump for them to drop over and see if they have anything to say.
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posted on
12/28/2003 8:25:19 PM PST
by
William Terrell
(Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
To: joanofarc
Marriage is also the reason I can make medical decisions about my wife. And a marriage licence is also a civil document that allows many things, i.e. Social Security survivorship and make two people 'next of kin'. Maybe my arguement is not for civil unions, but against special entitlements for married people (they can have the marriage penalty too!)
To: Federalist 78
"And that difficult for the cult of judges who opine otherwise."
Ah, you know my answer. Take away their discretion on that matter from now on.
"Marriage in the United States shall consist only of the union of a man and a woman. Neither this Constitution or the constitution of any State, nor state or federal law, shall be construed to require that marital status or the legal incidents thereof be conferred upon unmarried couples or groups."
...still reading about yours, little by little. Either way, it appears that the roughest part will be getting congressmen to oppose their own colleagues on something they don't want to let go of. Historians, clergy and rabble had better be ready to push long and hard in this scrummage. I hope the bars are split on the issue. Seeing how the no-fault divorce and related spectacles have gone, though, I doubt it.
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posted on
12/29/2003 1:43:08 AM PST
by
familyop
(Essayons - motto of good, stable psychotics with a purpose)
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posted on
12/29/2003 1:47:34 AM PST
by
kcvl
To: joanofarc
MATTHEWS: The last re-election was close.
DEAN: It was. It was a little-actually it wasnt that close. It was a third party person in there. So, I still won by the same margin in 1998, but since it was a third party, I barely got 50 percent.
MATTHEWS: So they got to know you really well, and they squeaked...
DEAN: I signed a really controversial bill, and then I squeaked in the last time.
MATTHEWS: What was that call
DEAN: Its called the civil unions bill. And its a bill that allows gay couples to have the same rights as everybody else.
SNIP
DEAN: The bill actually says marriage is between a man and a woman, but-or and same-sex couples may enter into a civil union and, therefore, have all the same legal rights as people who are married, including hospitalization, insurance rights, inheritance rights. There is no inequality of rights in the state of Vermont. We chose not to do gay marriage because there were many people who felt that marriage was a religious institution, and churches ought to be able to make their own decisions about who gets married and who doesnt. But we felt it was really important to do equal rights under the law for every single American, and Vermont is the only state in the country where everybody has the same rights as everyone else.
MATTHEWS: For all practical purposes, whether its Vermont or New Mexico, is there any difference between civil union and civil marriage?
For practical reasons.
DEAN: Well, in terms of legal rights, no, there is not.
MATTHEWS: So why are we quibbling over a name?
Because marriage is very important to a lot of people who are pretty religious.
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posted on
12/29/2003 1:50:39 AM PST
by
kcvl
To: kcvl
After the Massachusetts decision, a Lamda lawyer was debating it on Hardball. She kept repeating, "This decision will not affect religion." After about the fifth time, I realized she was protesting too much.
To: RLK
the real question is why is the media hell bent on pushing queers on adults and children. Queers are about 6 % of
the population and yet it is 80% of media copy.
wanna bet most on TV are queers or hired by queers ?
I would.
To: cars for sale
Communist Goals - 1963 Congressional Record20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
To: Federalist 78
yep, book chapter and verse.
To: Federalist 78
Bump for later reading. I want to answer a letter to the editor of our local newspaper who was writing all about the 'rights' of homosexuals to marry, and I'd like some more ammo for my own argument against it!
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posted on
12/29/2003 10:30:21 PM PST
by
SuziQ
To: Federalist 78
Zing !!!!
USC Article 3, Section 2, Clause 2 In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party,
the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact,
with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations
as the Congress shall make.
Good point! I was wonder out loud to a colleague of mine:
If the SCOTUS ruled that pogroms were legal the employed on {fill in the blank} 'cause the "they were due it" what would the remedy be?
Thank you for the answer.
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posted on
02/16/2004 9:28:25 PM PST
by
TeleStraightShooter
(Kerry plans to apply post-Vietnam policy to Iraq: Skedaddle & let the Syrian Batthists take over)
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