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Investor Buffett: Stem that trade deficit
The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | Sunday, December 28, 2003 | Jack Markowitz

Posted on 12/28/2003 12:00:01 PM PST by Willie Green

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:03:18 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Enough people worry about the federal budget deficit that it probably won't get insanely out of hand.

The trade deficit, our addiction to buying more from abroad than we sell abroad, is sneakier.

At $500 billion a year now and counting, it is steadily turning over America's "net worth" to foreigners. Mainly the Chinese, who now sell us $115 billion more a year than they buy from us. They pocket our dollars, acquire our assets.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: buffet; buffett; globalism; thebusheconomy; trade; tradedeficit; votenader
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1 posted on 12/28/2003 12:00:02 PM PST by Willie Green
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2 posted on 12/28/2003 12:00:43 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
I am personally working on something right now that may help the trade deficit. It's an ambitious project, but we've got a lot done. When we are ready to unveil, Freepers will be the first to know! :)
3 posted on 12/28/2003 12:08:40 PM PST by bolobaby
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To: Willie Green
We give foreginers little rectangle pieces of paper, and they give us semiconductors, cars, and TVs. Sounds like a good deal to me.
4 posted on 12/28/2003 12:11:56 PM PST by Pappy Smear
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To: bolobaby
I am personally working on something right now that may help the trade deficit. It's an ambitious project, but we've got a lot done. When we are ready to unveil, Freepers will be the first to know! :)

Someone had better come up with a plan soon or we are toast.

I would like to see how well China could compete with EPA, OSHA, our state regulation boards, unions, lawyers, labor laws, etc. Also, they've never spent a dime on R&D so maybe they should pay us something for that.

5 posted on 12/28/2003 12:32:20 PM PST by boycott
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To: seamole
Don't know about Soros, but Buffett makes financial transactions for one purpose - to make money for Berkshire-Hathaway. Buffett was selling dollars over a year ago. Exchange rates are much different now, and Buffett has a longstanding policy of not revealing his trades until he is done with them.

I think Buffett is a good investor, but this idea is dumb. He is basically suggesting a limited currency which would be used only for imports and exports.

7 posted on 12/28/2003 12:58:41 PM PST by Toskrin
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To: Pappy Smear
We give foreginers little rectangle pieces of paper, and they give us semiconductors, cars, and TVs. Sounds like a good deal to me. "

Hey they don't wipe their @ss with those little pieces of paper. Some foreign companies buy out American companies or Government bonds, and some build up weaponry. "Capitalists will sell us the rope to hang them."

8 posted on 12/28/2003 12:59:00 PM PST by ex-snook (Americans need Balanced Trade - we buy from you, you buy from us. No free rides.)
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9 posted on 12/28/2003 1:01:07 PM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: Willie Green
Many people here do not recognize the trade deficit exists.
10 posted on 12/28/2003 1:25:04 PM PST by RLK
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To: boycott
A 4% gain in GDP for 7 years will grow away the deficit.

5% and it will disappear in 5 years.

Same thing happened in the late 1990s.

The US economy will double in less than 15 years and salaries will triple.

11 posted on 12/28/2003 1:25:07 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (I don't believe anything a Democrat says. Bill Clinton set the standard!)
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To: Pappy Smear
We give foreginers little rectangle pieces of paper, and they give us semiconductors, cars, and TVs. Sounds like a good deal to me.

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Right. Until you wake up to find they own the entire monetary system.

12 posted on 12/28/2003 1:31:02 PM PST by RLK
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To: Pappy Smear
Sounds like a good deal to me.

Those little rectangles are, in reality, a claim against our factory and farm produced outputs in the future, or our assets in lieu of produced goods. They're called IOU's if you want to think in terms of trading with you neighbor by takng something from him today with a promise to deliver something of yours to him tomorrow to settle the deal.

13 posted on 12/28/2003 1:38:38 PM PST by templar
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...and salaries will triple.

A man worked for a buck a day a hundred years ago. Now he works for a hundred bucks a day. In both cases, it takes that days work to pay for that days living expenses, with very little (if any) left over. Except that now he has to have his wife work as well to make it, and with fewer kids to boot.

So, what does trippling salaries actually mean except that you have to make 300% gain on your savings over the next 15 years for them to remain the same in purchasing power?

14 posted on 12/28/2003 1:43:47 PM PST by templar
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To: Willie Green
We had HUGH trade deficits with Japan in the past, and look where it got them.
15 posted on 12/28/2003 2:04:12 PM PST by E=MC<sup>2</sup>
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To: templar
So, what does trippling salaries actually mean except that you have to make 300% gain on your savings over the next 15 years for them to remain the same in purchasing power?

Through the years I've scraped and saved and invested wisely so now my investments earn the equivalent of 5 times my salary each day.

It takes self discipline and hard work but the reward justifies the sacrifice.

All on $100 to $200 each month for 25 years.

The power of compounding and the rule of 72 should be required knowledge for every junior high graduate!

16 posted on 12/28/2003 2:38:34 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (I don't believe anything a Democrat says. Bill Clinton set the standard!)
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To: templar
This article covers one aspect of the dollar's decline. Our 500 billion dollar trade deficit creates a demand of 500 bil on future earnings and property. Our government budget will cause a 500 billion deficit to be financed by the same bonds or currency as the trade deficit.

The result will be a trillion dollar deficit going to foreign lenders or money creation by Greenspan. They both amount to ten percent or more of GDP. The government figures keep quoting that 5% of GDP is similar to the amount owed immediately after WW II. At that time we had a trade surplus plus were receiving monies from allies that owed us for equipment bought for the war.

Now to get to the worrisome part of the equation. With a raw figure of 8.5 trillion which is our national GDP, what is the percentage of that GDP required to service our debt? A low ball figure is 11%. Forecasts of four to five percent is a pretty good figure of growth in our economy a year. This means that a deficit of five to six percent will be short of meeting our obligations each year.

This also means that adding a trillion dollar debt each year we have a time frame of two to three years when our debt equals more than our GDP. This is the breaking point. Argentina, here we come! Japan was fortunate in having a trade surplus and a saving population so we will not be so fortunate as they.

17 posted on 12/28/2003 2:39:31 PM PST by meenie (Remember the Alamo! Alamo! One more time. Alamo!!!)
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To: templar
They're called IOU's

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They are IOU's we can not possibly pay off.

18 posted on 12/28/2003 3:09:14 PM PST by RLK
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To: RLK
They are IOU's we can not possibly pay off.

My plan is the following:

Stay the course. Consume and consume and consume. Keep trading those little rectangular pieces of paper for cars and computers.

Then, just when it gets really, really, really bad; and foreigners own like 20 trillion worth of America, we tell them to go screw themselves. It can't possibly cost us more than 1 trillion to kick all their asses if they complain. Call it the Rodney King 2020 plan.

19 posted on 12/28/2003 6:27:36 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
A 4% gain in GDP for 7 years will grow away the deficit. 5% and it will disappear in 5 years.

Same thing happened in the late 1990s.

The US economy will double in less than 15 years and salaries will triple.

Sorry, I just don't believe this. Most people would not say that salaries have tripled in the last 15 years. They would tell you that they are having to work a lot more but not really making much more.

The only way salaries will triple will be if the pump so many dollars into the money supply.

20 posted on 12/28/2003 7:14:12 PM PST by boycott
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