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The argument that illegal labor contributes more than it takes is only possibly true nationwide, and that data is old. On a statewide basis, the area with the illegals puts far more money into them than they give back. Do you want to live in that state? It's going to be every state if something is not done to stop the hand-outs.

I've read estimates that about a third of illegal labor gets paid in cash. I doubt that we will ever hear anything close to the truth from official sources.

It's going to be every state if something is not done to stop the hand-outs

Ofcourse, it will. Just two or three months ago, we had a shoot out on the highway not five miles from my home. It was between rival coyotes. They were fighting over some cargo.

But as the papers were reporting on this story, they talked a little about the operations. They set up drop off houses where the illegal aliens are kept until they are dispatched to all the lower 48.

I don't know what % gets paid in cash. The only ones I ever see (and I see many) are on payroll. I know they are, because that's why I'm there at their employer's company, to talk with them about their 401(k) plan. (The illegals, obviously, don't want to participate in a 401, as they are using false SS #'s. Usually, they're using a cousin's or a friend's, or someone who has since gone back to Mexico.) Perhaps a third of illegals are paid in cash; I doubt it's any higher. Personally, I think it's closer to 10%, but that's just a gut feeling.

I am not one arguing that illegal labor contributes more than it takes. Quite the contrary. I'm only trying to state the facts: Most illegals DO pay into the Social Security system (as do their employers) via the payroll tax. Some on this thread don't want to accept this minor, but technically accurate, fact.