How Illegal Aliens are Bankrupting and Disenfranchising the American Middle and Working Classes

A Different Drummer/Middle American News ^ | December, 2003 | Nicholas Stix

[Mackey]

100 years ago popular opinion was against Italian and Irish immigration. Today it's against Mexicans.

Damned right- Mexicans who are here ILLEGALLY are the vast majority of the TRESPASSERS in my home!

[At _War_With_Liberals]

"we used to have many names for 'lily-white' Irish immigrants in the 19th century... I'm sure I'll think of something."

Racist.

[riri]

we used to have many names for 'lily-white' Irish immigrants in the 19th century... I'm sure I'll think of something."

Drunks?

Just kidding.

[Mackey]

...the benefits that the pachukos enjoy here

Too funny ! Ihaven't heard that word used in over 20 years !! ;-)

Yeah...now they're cholos.

[txdoda]

Is it because AMERICANS are DEMANDING too much money for a job that doesn't warrant it?>>>>>>

Most working Americans have to live & pay American TAXES on the salary they are paid.


The only reason these jobs are available is because they typical AMERICAN believes they are TOO GOOD for the job and hence the job is available to someone else - ILLEGALS who don't believe they are too good for the job and take it.

Funny, you place NO BLAME on greedy employers, paying sub-wages, & saving a bundle on their part of taxes & benefits.

[texastoo]

I know an illegal anchor baby mama who works as a maid for $20 cash a day or $2.50 an hour. Of course, everything else is free. She collects food stamps, has free medical and dental care and lives in government housing. She pays no taxes. AS for illegals taking American jobs I ask you:

Why aren't AMERICANS taking these jobs?

Is it because AMERICANS are DEMANDING too much money for a job that doesn't warrant it?

The only reason these jobs are available is because they typical AMERICAN believes they are TOO GOOD for the job and hence the job is available to someone else-ILLEGALS who don't believe they are too good for the job and take it.

There are plenty of these jobs available for you and your children. Just let me know when you are coming and I'll help you. The problem is that if you are an American citizen, you may have a hard time getting all the bennies. The waiting lists for government housing are long.

It is kind of sad that our country has sunk so low. Without the American taxpayer subsidizing the ILEGALS, who can live off $2.50/hour?

[liberallyconservative]

First, I haven't lost ANY argument to you.

Second, I notice you haven't replied to the above-mentioned post.

As stated before, the large influx of Irish and Italian immigrants was entirely different. These groups did not DEMAND our citizenry learn their languages; great effort was put forth to assimilate to our culture. I don't see that happening with the vast majority of ILLEGAL aliens from south of the border.

[At _War_With_Liberals]

"so why is everyone here obsessing about immigration "

You will not say 'illegal immigration'.

Si?

[AlBondigas]

Yeah...now they're cholos.

Cholos = tatooed homies. IIRC there's about 20 yrs that separate pachukos from cholos....but they're basically da same ting.

[gawd]

As stated before, the large influx of Irish and Italian immigrants was entirely different. These groups did not DEMAND our citizenry learn their languages; great effort was put forth to assimilate to our culture. I don't see that happening with the vast majority of ILLEGAL aliens from south of the border

precisely because they're "illegals" that they won't assimilate. make them into citizens and they'll be stars-and-stripes Americans in a generation.

[liberallyconservative]

I stand corrected. I'm sure the show wouldn't have "played" quite the same way if Mr. Hagar had shown the camera crews around his leased estate.

[txdoda]

I do believe Legal Immigrants have to undergo those.>>>>>>>

Sure they do......we 'spoke' with someone the other day, who was required to do all the paperwork & backround checks we now reqire, we he immigrated his 90 yr. old mother just RECENTLY, to the USA.

[At _War_With_Liberals]

Whoops. 60.000.000. ;-)

[gawd]

You will not say 'illegal immigration'.

I believe, like many of the Founding Fathers (go ahead and check), that immigration is a right, and therefore "illegal immigration" is something completely nonsensical.

[Mackey]

precisely because they're "illegals" that they won't assimilate. make them into citizens and they'll be stars-and-stripes Americans in a generation.

Yeah, with dual citizenship.

[liberallyconservative]

Which goes back to the question of WHY should the illegal immigrants be rewarded? And that, in essence, is what we would be doing if the ILLEGAL immigrants are given carte blanche citizenship; it denigrates those who have made enough of an effort already to assimilate by pursuing LEGAL status.

[Landru]

Well.
I see Nic (& you) stirring up the hornet's nest of controversy, again.
And using the same old mo, to boot: "survival," "logic," "common sense."
Sheshhhh.
When you two ever gonna learn.

You're both [now] going to endure belittlment, insults, be mocked & generally made to pay & pay dearly I'd suspect; and, by the usual suspects & their li'l helpers, no less.

Yes, the defenders of insanity & self destruction seem to have multiplied like rabbits.
One wonders where did they all come from?

That's not the worst of it, though.
Noooooo.
The most outrageous part of all the lunacy is -- for some odd reason -- how these race baiting SOBs are "respected" & held in such high esteem!!
You're wondering "Why would they be held in anything *but* contempt when the position they're taking is so transparent if not altogether dangerous to every man, woman & child of United States' cictizenship?" aren'tcha?

They can pull off this shtick because they smoothly debate while throwing everyone elses [read: legal citizen] best interests right under the bus as they hawk their Liberal-Socialist agenda.

Around here, "debating" appears to be all that matters anymore, y'know; &, fewer & fewer seem to be noticing while all the blather's going on, Rome burns. :o)

Well I'll tell you why *I* -- Landru -- don't worry about all this illegal alien crap for one instant.
That's because our POTUS is going to take care of everything.
I know that because someone told me so, too.

Hope your holidays have been all you'd want 'em to be, Mr.r.; or, peaceful if nothing else.

...give my best to nic, will you.

[TEXOKIE]

bump for later!

[liberallyconservative]

There are laws in place for the pursuit of legal immigration. To ignore or willfully break those laws constitutes the "illegal" status.

[txdoda]

this is about keeping "wetbacks" OUT. pure and simple.>>>>>>

I stated "no rewards for any LAWBREAKERS, any color, from any country (including US Citizens)" and YOU *SPIN* that to "keeping wetbacks out" !!!

Why do your 'one sided arguments' only pertain to mexico.???