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Meat of Infected Cow Found in More States
News-Journal ^ | 12/28/2003 | AP

Posted on 12/28/2003 9:03:31 AM PST by yonif

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To: Battle Axe; PeaceBeWithYou
"Can our pets get this?"

I heard somewhere last week that it is transmissable to many other animals. I don't know if that is accurate, but I have heard reports of some other animals contracting the disease, not realated to this incident, but perhaps when all the chaos was going on in the UK. I'll see if I can find anything.

PBWY has been researching this issue some. Perhaps he knows more.

61 posted on 12/28/2003 10:09:38 AM PST by sweetliberty (Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.)
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To: yonif
bookmarked for later reading..
62 posted on 12/28/2003 10:11:16 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: All
Is organic or corn-fed beef likely to be safer (although highly expensive)?
63 posted on 12/28/2003 10:12:09 AM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: Battle Axe
I'm starting to get hungry.
64 posted on 12/28/2003 10:13:27 AM PST by JudgemAll
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To: JudgemAll
Not true. Cats and dogs in England died from the disease.

Well then I guess CBS news was wrong. Fancy that.

"There is no known risk to dogs . . . " http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/02/28/health/main542336.shtml

Glad I feed my dogs lamb.

65 posted on 12/28/2003 10:13:45 AM PST by Gelato
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To: Battle Axe
Okay, here's one thing I found:

Bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), popularized in the recent press coverage of the European epidemic as "mad cow disease," belongs to a group of progressively degenerative neurological diseases, collectively known as transmissible spongiform encephalopathies (TSE’s)(See Table 1.) TSE’s are characterized by long incubation periods, short clinical course, 100% fatality, and no known course of treatment. The causative agent has not been fully characterized; however, resistance to physical and chemical agents that destroy nucleic acids essentially rules out conventional microbial and viral agents. The scientific community is increasingly referring to the "prion" theory as the most likely source of infection. The infection seems to be dependent on the infected animal’s own proteins, while the lack of foreign proteins allows the infectivity to remain invisible to the host’s immune system. This "invisibility" fails to provoke an antibody response, which. causes the development of typical vaccines and simple detection techniques to likely be improbable. The current test, other than post-mortem histopathology, involves the isolation of the appropriate suspected infected tissue (brain and other nervous tissue being best), injecting it into mice and waiting about 700 days for any symptoms to develop. The peculiar nature, invisibility, of the disease explains the possibility of spontaneous mutation as well as the spread from exposure, as this disease has the peculiarity of being both an acquired infection and a Mendelian inherited disease, generally considered inconsistent with an infectious agent. Additionally, the vulnerability of one species versus another varies considerably. A number of domestic cats (>86) in Great Britain have contracted encephalopathy; however, not a single dog, pig or horse have, despite exposure to the same agents thought to have transmitted the disease to the cats.

66 posted on 12/28/2003 10:16:18 AM PST by sweetliberty (Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.)
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To: sweetliberty; Battle Axe
"Okay, this may be a stupid question, but why does the meat of one cow go to 9 differnt places? "



Check out post #31 from Battle Axe .. that is how the meat packing place I worked at back in the 80's worked like ..


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1047684/posts?page=31#31
67 posted on 12/28/2003 10:16:50 AM PST by Mo1 (House Work, If you do it right , will kill you!)
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To: nmh

Then how come England destroyed the entire animal?

Because Brits eat cow brains? It is the brain/spinal cells that cause the problem. The British feed their cattle a feed mixed with the brain cells of other cattle. IF the one cow's infected cells are ingested by another cow, it too will probably become infected wiht Mad Cow. The U.S. (I believe) has stopped the sale & use of such feed. After all it is basically cannibalism. Same type (mad cow) of disease occurs in human cannibals.

They probably did not want to chance any of the infected cows/cattle becoming feed.

68 posted on 12/28/2003 10:24:06 AM PST by madison10
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To: yonif
Read later.
69 posted on 12/28/2003 10:28:24 AM PST by EagleMamaMT
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To: yonif
Ruh-roh. But when will my porterhouses drop in price?
70 posted on 12/28/2003 10:36:27 AM PST by Beck_isright (This tag line edited by the 9th Circuit Court due to offensive political commentary)
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To: Wolfie
Crowd Conrol,Crowd Control,Crowd Control.
71 posted on 12/28/2003 10:38:44 AM PST by John W
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To: yonif
"Although federal officials maintain the food supply is safe, they have recalled as a precaution an estimated 10,000 pounds of meat from the infected cow and from 19 other cows all slaughtered Dec. 9 at Vern's Moses Lake Meat Co., in Moses Lake, Wash."

This sounds like the "miracle of the cows".

72 posted on 12/28/2003 10:39:44 AM PST by NetValue (They're not Americans, they're democrats.)
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To: Gelato
Glad I feed my dogs lamb.

Is this a bad time to point out that cows got BSE from being fed remains of sheep with scrapies?

73 posted on 12/28/2003 10:40:35 AM PST by null and void (Hey islamofascists! America is your Azrael...)
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To: All
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is what I have ascertained from various reports:
1) A cow is slaughtered en masse, regardless of its apparently obvious physical condition.
2) Therefore, the suspected carcass has already been processed (up to and including consumer purchase) by the time the test results show up.
3) All slaughter tools have the potential of becoming infected if they have come into contact with said cow.
4) We have to depend on human-generated traceability records to show the cycle of disperement.

There is something wrong with how the whole thing handled.

BTW, I know it won't make anyone feel better, but the videos of the mad cow are stock foreign footage, I think.
74 posted on 12/28/2003 10:45:44 AM PST by baltodog (When you're hanging from a hook, you gotta' get a bigger boat, or something like that.)
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To: yonif
they have found meat cut from a Holstein sick with mad cow disease was sent to four more states and one territory.

...some of the meat from the cow slaughtered Dec. 9 went to Alaska, Hawaii, Idaho, Montana and Guam. Earlier, officials had said most of the meat went to Washington and Oregon, with lesser amounts to California and Nevada.

How big a freakin cow is this??? (And it is a dairy cow to to boot, not a beef cow.)

One cow feeds eight states and a territory. This is a bigger miracle than the fish one a couple thousand years ago.

75 posted on 12/28/2003 10:48:03 AM PST by sd-joe (.)
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To: yonif
When I read the headline, I thought the story was about the wide availability of a new heavy metal album.
76 posted on 12/28/2003 10:53:48 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: rs79bm
"Aren't many inexpensive meat products made from the intestines?"

Hot dogs?

77 posted on 12/28/2003 10:58:18 AM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: yonif
This a really serious subject, I know, but I need a little levity for a moment.




78 posted on 12/28/2003 11:00:39 AM PST by Lady Jag (Googolplex Star Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: spectre
See the hotdog post after yours (77 or 78?).

Weren't steak and kidney pies made of offal, which were intestines and stuff? I remember years ago reading that because of BSE, offal was banned from those pies and other food items I wasn't familiar with.

79 posted on 12/28/2003 11:03:32 AM PST by Lady Jag (Googolplex Star Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: Ditter
If the cow was known to be sick while still alive, why was the meat cut & sold? The meat should have at least been held until test were done on the brain.

I don't think they are supposed to accept 'downers', but some do anyway.

80 posted on 12/28/2003 11:04:36 AM PST by Djarum
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