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To: Cubs Fan
I've been in that section of Chicago and I've been in that particular store.

I have friends who live a little bit west of there. The demographics are predominantly black; working class to middle class. You don't see grafitti, barred windows and groups of unemployed young males loitering about. Expecting to hear of exhorbidant Chicago prices, I was very surprised to learn that in the very nice, very well maintained predominantly black neighborhood (1950's construction)where my friends live, a 2500sqft all brick veneer or stone veneer house on a .25 acre lot with two car garage can be purchased for $90-$100/ft. A train station is within walking distance providing easy access to the downtown district as well as businesses on the very expensive North Side.

I've been in this particular store twice. What I can tell you about the store is that even on an ordinary weekend, it is packed with about 10 customers per checkout. You don't go to that store thinking you're going to quickly go in and out. There's no excuse for what happened and someone needs to spend some time in jail but I hate to imagine the size of the checkout lines at Christmas in that store.

We've all seen and heard of parking space fights and this is just a variant. I've seen whites come to blows over a parking space in a crowded lot. Once, when I was a teenager, I watched two old retired white guys go at each other with golf clubs over a parking space dispute during an Albertsons grand opening. The endless FR threads on this topic is a little disturbing.

33 posted on 12/28/2003 10:43:06 AM PST by fso301
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To: fso301
Forest Park is actually a pretty nice burg although there are some bad sections. I was at a party there in their "downtown" area on West Madison between Harlem and Des Plaines, and, other than the parking, everything was pretty cool. Years ago, though, I stopped in a 7-11 on Roosevelt there that was fairly hostile.
35 posted on 12/28/2003 11:04:19 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: fso301
I've been in that section of Chicago and I've been in that particular store. I have friends who live a little bit west of there. The demographics are predominantly black; working class to middle class. You don't see grafitti, barred windows and groups of unemployed young males loitering about.

Don't know what you're talking about. Maywood, Bellwood and Broadview (where these criminals are from) are predominantly black area and dangerous places (look up crime stats on each and you'll see). That doesn't mean there aren't some good people living there, but there is definitely a dangerous element too.

And yes certainly there are many whites who are violent. But as Main Street pointed out the levels of black on white crime are multiples of the reverse.

The endless FR threads on this topic is a little disturbing.

http://www.drudgereport.com/ Drudge has a link up to the story, is that disturbing too?

37 posted on 12/28/2003 11:24:36 AM PST by Cubs Fan
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