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Al-Qaeda turns to targeting luxury cruise liners in its jihad against the West.
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| December 29, 2003
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Posted on 12/28/2003 5:19:04 AM PST by yankeedame
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To: yankeedame
They tend to repeat previous acts of terrorism.
They already did this with the Achille laura.
I suspect the difference is that if they tried hijacking a cruise ship again, the passengers might rise up in a mutiny.
Or they could attack a ship with a small ship full of explosives like the USS Cole.
But the Cole was a smaller ship than these passenger liners. Does anyone know the logistics of making a huge hole in a liner, if it would sink?
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posted on
12/28/2003 5:24:47 AM PST
by
LadyDoc
(liberals only love politically correct poor people)
To: yankeedame
Fox terrorism expert Mansoor Jibaaz sp.? mentioned Al Quaeda's interest in maritime targets several days ago. Said it was series. Must have had this in mind.
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posted on
12/28/2003 5:28:25 AM PST
by
hershey
To: LadyDoc
"Does anyone know the logistics of making a huge hole in a liner, if it would sink?" Yeah, those cruise lines are made a lot tougher than military ships. Also, I don't think a terrorist could sink one because there so big.
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posted on
12/28/2003 5:29:52 AM PST
by
TBall
To: LadyDoc
I would hope that much was learned from the "unsinkable" Titanic when it comes to ship building and watertite compartments, but if enough compartments are breached and fill then any ship will go down.
I am sure that We will have a Knowledgeable Freeper come by here and give details.
So BTTT for info better than mine.
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posted on
12/28/2003 5:33:40 AM PST
by
ChefKeith
(NASCAR...everything else is just a game!)
To: LadyDoc
I suspect the difference is that if they tried hijacking a cruise ship again, the passengers might rise up in a mutiny. Against a bunch of terrorists with machine guns?
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posted on
12/28/2003 5:34:10 AM PST
by
Aquinasfan
(Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
To: TBall
Also, I don't think a terrorist could sink one because there so big.Terrorists don't have to sink cruising ship to achieve their goal, there is 3000 or more people crammed on those ships. If the small plane hits cafeteria or patio deck hundreds will be killed and thousands of future potential passangers will be scared to take a cruise.
To: Anticommie
I think you're on to something.
To: LadyDoc
Does anyone know the logistics of making a huge hole in a liner, if it would sink? It's been used in a book before, not Tom Clancy this time, Clive Cussler.
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posted on
12/28/2003 5:52:41 AM PST
by
mewzilla
To: yankeedame
[O]fficial said it would be "extra-ordinarily difficult" for a light plane to crash into a large passenger plane due to collision avoidance systems in larger airliners. Not if the small aircraft turns off his transponder, which is the only way automated collision avoidance system can sense another aircraft. At many airports (e.g., Heathrow) ground controllers turn off the "primary" radar display and depend entirely on "secondary" or tranponder echoes. The 9-11 hijackers turned off the transponders.
Steering a collision course isn't that hard, all you do is "null the line of sight rate", which is easier than it sounds.
If you miss you can always try again on the next arrival.
To: Anticommie
"Also, I don't think a terrorist could sink one because there so big." I was being extremely sarcastic in that sentence.
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posted on
12/28/2003 5:58:59 AM PST
by
TBall
To: Aquinasfan
Against a bunch of terrorists with machine guns?You have to round up passengers one at a time...and in the achille laura they put all the passengers in the lounge. except for Klinghoffer, everyone obeyed the shitheads...but nowadays, people might not "obey" because unlike back then, where you had a chance, they might figure they didn't have a chance...and rebel. Yes, if you line up in front of machine guns, you don't have a chance...but there are a limited number of clips in the guns carried by terrorists--they wouldn't have machine guns but automatic rifles, and so they couldn't kill everyone...
And like the Pennsylvania flight, even if a lot of passengers got killed, the story of a bunch of US or UK civilians fighting back would be a propaganda disaster for terrorists, who rely on the passivity of the west for their success...
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posted on
12/28/2003 6:06:39 AM PST
by
LadyDoc
(liberals only love politically correct poor people)
To: hershey; BKO; Joy Angela; conservogirl; Ragtime Cowgirl; Alamo-Girl; PhilDragoo; risk; onyx; ...
NEVER FORGET
FoX News Channel Terrorism Expert MONSOOR IJAZ (Pronounced EEE-JAZ) has also stated that OSAMA bin LADEN was stirring things up between INDIA and PAKISTAN over Kashmir in order to divert us from his own attempts to take control of Pakistan's 100 stored Nuclear Weapons =
100 Nuclear Weapons get loaded into Sea Containers for shipment onto Container Steamships bound for many U.S. Ports =
100 Nuclear Weapons get off loaded into U.S. Posts to be trucked or railed into America's interior
...just for the "Fun" of it.
For more on Steamship Sea Container Shipping see:
http://www.Matson.com By the Way ..it is none other than BILL CLINTON himself who is now brokering a Peace "Agreement" between the President of India and Pakistan over Kashmire ...just as the President of Pakistan suffers 2 near-miss asassination attempts on his life in the last 2 weeks..!!
The President of Pakistan is the only thing standing in the way of OSAMA bin LADEN's gaining control of those 100 Nuclear Weapons stored in Pakistan ...to use against US..!!!
While still President of the United States BILL CLINTON stated that all the nations of the world should be playing on the same LEVEL playing field, including America's Enemies, and that there shouldn't be one most powerful Nation over all the others ..like America is now..!!!
After his leaving office BILL CLINTON told the world that there might not even be an America around in 300 years.
Apparently BILL CLINTON is doing all that he can to...
...MAKE IT SO..???
NEVER FORGET
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posted on
12/28/2003 6:12:47 AM PST
by
ALOHA RONNIE
(Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com)
To: Anticommie
Terrorists don't have to sink cruising ship to achieve their goal, there is 3000 or more people crammed on those ships. If the small plane hits cafeteria or patio deck hundreds will be killed and thousands of future potential passangers will be scared to take a cruise. If a small plane can carry a pilot plus 3 passengers, then it can also carry a pilot plus 700 pounds or so of C-4. That's a pretty big bang by anybody's standards. If they can rig up a way to carry it under the plane and drop it like a torpedo just under the waterline, they might make an impressive hole
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posted on
12/28/2003 6:26:04 AM PST
by
SauronOfMordor
(Nine out of the ten voices in my head told me to stay home and clean my guns today)
To: ALOHA RONNIE
thanks for the correction and info about maritime containers. No wonder I'm not sleeping at night. As for Clinton, he's the same sociopath he's always been, but just when you think he can't possibly sink any lower, he does. Hmmm, Mona Charen on Fox just said Dean's only chance at beating Bush would be if he energizes the black vote and puts Harold Ford on the ticket. Not familiar with Ford, maybe they said Errol Ford. Anyway, that he was articulate and had ideas. Mona said this scenario wasn't likely as Dean is an angry white male without a clue.
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posted on
12/28/2003 6:26:47 AM PST
by
hershey
To: hershey
H. Ford (D-TN)
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posted on
12/28/2003 6:31:30 AM PST
by
csvset
To: Lonesome in Massachussets
[O]fficial said it would be "extra-ordinarily difficult" for a light plane to crash into a large passenger plane due to collision avoidance systems in larger airliners. Not if the small aircraft turns off his transponder, which is the only way automated collision avoidance system can sense another aircraft.
Also not if the airliner is on the ground, standing in line with a bunch of other loaded airliners on a taxiway.
To: csvset
Ford is only 35, too young (legally) for the VP office.
To: MoralSense
Excellent point.
To: Anticommie
Whether they kill 3000 people or 3 at a time think about the terrorists. All they can do is run up & punch us in the nose & then run & hide. They are pathetic, small time morons.
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posted on
12/28/2003 6:48:57 AM PST
by
Ditter
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