The Nanny State Strikes Again

Fox News ^ | 12/26/03 | William A. Niskanen

[jimkress]

Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta, who must have little else to do, has recently urged state governments to pass "primary" seat-belt laws, which allow police to stop and cite motorists solely for failing to wear a seat belt.

And the Bush administration has proposed a $400 million incentive to reward state governments that pass such laws.

[NMC EXP]

Come on, quit posting crap and address the issue.

Getting frustrated Louis?

I'll tell you my actual solution and it will probably cause you to pop a vein.

Because I was so fed up and disgusted by people like you and nanny statists in the govt stealing from me and giving it to others here is what I did:

I walked away from a good job with a Fortune 100 corporation and started my own little business and restructured my finances. My income is so low that I do not pay income tax any more.

THat is my real solution Louis. I am personally doing my part to starve the beast.

Regards

J.R.

[Luis Gonzalez]

I am asking for solutions to a real problem, not for you or anyone to demagogue the issue.

People have a real-time problem.

What is the solution?

[Luis Gonzalez]

I'm not getting frustrated at all.

I am however, proving beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you have no solutions to any real problems, and that you have no clue as to what it would take to govern this country.

It's easy to engage in bitch fests, it's difficult to solve things.

I don't care about how you solved YOUR problem Congressman, your job is to solve your constituent's problems.

So far, you've done nothing.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Actually, you have suggested a solution of sorts.

You suggested taking away any form of assistance, and let them starve to death, or die from lack of medication.

How will you do come re-election time?

[Luis Gonzalez]

"Darwin defined the solution."

Darwin's theory of survival of the wealthiest?

Where did he publish that?

[NMC EXP]

it's difficult to solve things.

Only if you make the issue more complicated than it really is.

I was an engineer in my previous life.

Engineering and science demand objectivity.

Your "problems" and "solutions" are based on emotion.

Guess you're not a scientist or engineer.

Regards

J.R.

[Luis Gonzalez]

So far, you have "engineered" your way out of actually offering up any solutions.

Tomorrow, millions of Americans will wake up and have a choice to make: food, or medicine. The issue being the high cost of prescription medicines.

There's the non-emotion based problem.

What is your solution?

[NMC EXP]

I have told you my solutions based on your scenario and based on my reality.

What about them don't you understand?

Regards

J.R.

[inquest]

("Demagogue"?)

Like I insinuated (not very effectively, I gather), this is a state issue, not a federal issue. So whatever solution you have in mind - cradle-to-grave social welfare, or whatever - can be handled at the state level just fine. If the feds have any extra money hanging around, they can help the process by cutting taxes.

Beyond that, there's no "solution" to the problem of poverty, any more than there's a solution to the problem of human evil.

[NMC EXP]

What is your solution?

When I fill out my form 1040 in a couple of months the line called "TAXABLE INCOME" will say $0.00.

Regards

J.R.

[Eastbound]

"It was a mistake, in retrospect, but Bush was doing it as a good will gesture to the Dems, who of course bit his outstretched hand. "

That's what happens when you try to feed starving coyotes by hand. As a Texan, I thought he knew better. He dropped the ball on CFR and let Estrada slide. Let's hope he snaps out of his anesthesia before he loses an arm over the AWB sunset.

[billbears]

Show me how the Feds have usurped the State's right to regulate transportation by urging the enactment, and incentivizing of this potentially money (and life) saving legislation.

Presently? Or in the past 20 years? The national government usurped the right of the respective states under the leadership of DOT Transportation Secretary Elizabeth Dole when the first seat belt law was forced upon 2/3rds of the states

[DLfromthedesert]

After 9/11 Mineta should have been HISTORY.

[billbears]

Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta, who must have little else to do, has recently urged state governments to pass "primary" seat-belt laws, which allow police to stop and cite motorists solely for failing to wear a seat belt.

Could someone tell me what it is about seat belts and DOT Secretarys serving under Republican Presidents? Funny how history repeats itself. Giddy gave us not only seatbelts, but airbags, third brake lights, and maintained national speed limit laws. God knows what this knucklehead has in store for us

[Eastbound]

"These people need a solution now, so your solution must exist right now because as a member of the U.S. Congress, you have the Constitutional duty to "provide for...the general welfare" of the United States, and by extent, its citizens."

Provide?????? My copy says 'promote.' Provide, which requires funding (taxation) was for the common defense -- not welfare. If the plan was to re-distribute wealth through taxation (socialism), they would have used the same word, 'provide,' don't you think?

[MEG33]

Are you an American citizen?

[dcwusmc]

How special. You posted that to me.

Now, please HONESTLY tell me:
1. Has NON-anti-terrorist spending gone up or down under Bush?
2. Has the SIZE of government increased or decreased under Bush?
3. Would you have been so complacent as to be happy with a burgeoning FedGov under, say, Prez AGore or HilLIARy? Or would you be screaming from the rooftops as you did under Billy BentPecker?
4. Just exactly HOW has Bush made ANY strides toward reducing FedGov to its Constitutional limits? ANY progress whatsoever? Where has FedGov actually SHRUNK under Bush?

No, your cutesy little article is so full of male bovine excrement as to be utterly laughable. The SOLE difference between your Pubbies and the Rats these days is the SPEED with which we are headed toward socialist nirvana. That's it and that's all. It's the "Ordered Liberty" that I have heard so much about, with FedGov FedGoons giving the orders and NEITHER half of the ruling party changing course from that direction by so much as one degree off heading. And you and yours have YET to point out any MEANINGFUL differences. I'd say you lose, but the sad fact is that the Country and the Constitution BOTH lose along with you.

[dcwusmc]

Where in the Constitution for the United States is FedGov given authority over such things? Especially when committed OUTSIDE a legitimate Federal Reservation, such as D.C. or a military installation? Constitutionally, FedGov ONLY has jurisdiction over counterfeiting, treason and piracy. That'sit and that's all. The rest is an illegal and unconscionable usurpation of power by FedGov.

[dcwusmc]

It means taken by force... at gunpoint. Yes, that does equate to theft, doesn't it? You're pretty astute today. The IRS is one of the groups of FedGoons authorized to carry weapons. Some even carry shotguns as "customer relations" tools. Pretty cool, huh?

[MEG33]

What would you say was the best year for the US acting as you think it should according to the Constitution?