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To: LPM1888
You are making several large assumptions to bolster your position, the first of which is that the social liberalism of the young is a static situation that does not change as they wed and produce children.

Secondly, the overwhelming majority of young folks are woefully ill informed no matter the issue. It is high time that this issue is openly debated and all possible ramifications to liberalizing, read redefining, marriage be placed on the table for one and all to ponder upon.

Thirdly, young people, as a rule, don't vote. Whether that is good or bad is up to the individual's to decide but it is none the less true.

16 posted on 12/27/2003 7:07:59 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Well, there are always those old geezer Socratic types around to corrupt the young. You general point is well taken, but certain hard wiring cultural attitudes don't change much as one begins to physically deteriorate from being a 20 something stud. Just look at the massive change in attitudes in this country in our lifetimes regarding race and religion (the latter from a internecine denominational standpoint).

The issue of gay marriage and gay civil unions will either gain traction or fade based on empirical experience. And that is as it should be.

38 posted on 12/27/2003 9:30:59 PM PST by Torie
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To: jwalsh07
You are making several large assumptions to bolster your position, the first of which is that the social liberalism of the young is a static situation that does not change as they wed and produce children.

I am 53 years old and in my experience the general trend of society during my life time has been toward the acceptance of homosexuality. I see no reason why that trend will not continue in the future. Since the current younger generations are already more accepting of homosexuals than my generation ever was or will be I see no reason to believe that the trend will not intensify in the future.

Secondly, the overwhelming majority of young folks are woefully ill informed no matter the issue. It is high time that this issue is openly debated and all possible ramifications to liberalizing, read redefining, marriage be placed on the table for one and all to ponder upon.

I agree but I don't see how that will reverse the trend toward the inclusion of homosexuals in normal society. In fact I think it will speed their inclusion.

Thirdly, young people, as a rule, don't vote. Whether that is good or bad is up to the individual's to decide but it is none the less true.

Not until they get older; that is why I state that the change will take twenty or thirty years.

75 posted on 12/27/2003 11:49:04 PM PST by LPM1888 (What are the facts? Again and again and again -- what are the facts? - Lazarus Long)
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