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To: Conservative til I die
I don't want you as a friend, nor as a representative of the libertarians, -- as you caricature being one here on FR. You claim to be a libertarian-leaning conservative, but being blindly pro-'life', you've become an unconstitutional zealot in my eyes.
157 posted on 12/27/2003 4:47:55 PM PST by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but FRs flying monkey squad brings out my devils. Happy New Year!)
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To: tpaine
I don't want you as a friend, nor as a representative of the libertarians, -- as you caricature being one here on FR. You claim to be a libertarian-leaning conservative, but being blindly pro-'life', you've become an unconstitutional zealot in my eyes.

Plenty of libertarians are pro-life. Most conservatives. Very few Democrats and liberals. You're the one with the blind position.

But have fun in your little club of 1.
159 posted on 12/27/2003 4:53:53 PM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: tpaine
Happy Holidays there tp. I hope Santa was good to you.
160 posted on 12/27/2003 5:02:02 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: tpaine; Conservative til I die
being blindly pro-'life', you've become an unconstitutional zealot in my eyes

I hate to come to the defence of someone who calls himself a conservative, but your statment is way off bounds. Nothing in the constitution adequately defines when a person becomes a person under the law. We are left to our own reasoning when it comes to that question. The fact is that abortion is perhaps the biggest argument among libertarians. You can apply the same basic philosophy, and depending on whether you consider the unborn a person under the law, come up with entirely different conclusions. I am a pro-life libertarian simply because I do not believe that the number of cells in your body or your bio-mass should determine whether or not you have legal rights under the US constituion. That does not make me a zealot or somehow unconstitutional. You and I look at the same set of facts and because there are no guidelines set down in law, we come up with different conclusions. The abortion issue is the symptom of a greater problem, and that is that the constitution is mostly silent on what exactly defines a "person".

170 posted on 12/28/2003 10:55:01 AM PST by Nanodik (Libertarian, Ex-Canadian)
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