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Nope, sorry, not a Catholic. Not even Christian. And I really have no problem whatsoever with Hobbes; in fact, he has been a major influence on my political philosophy.

I am having a lot of trouble believing you have read Leviathan. Perhaps I am the first person you have ever encountered who has read the entire thing? Give me some reference, any, that demonstrates that you have read even a few chapters of that work. You don't even recognize his description of the state of humanity unaltered by government ("nasty, brutish, and short" - the Hobbesian world to which I referred earlier), which occurs quite early in the tome. I see no recognition of even the basic definition he set forth for the term "moral". On what basis would anyone believe you have read the book?

If you can substantiate what you have said, I will be happy to debate the merits thereof. If you cannot substantiate what you have said, then you owe me an apology.

I really have no problem whatsoever with Hobbes; in fact, he has been a major influence on my political philosophy.

Hobbes is maligned by many, not because he is untruthful, but because in terms of Biblical principal he is accurate much more than the sectarian dogma coming from the churches. The idea of a Sovereign not having the 'divine right of kings' but - - a divine right of a Godly king to rule by consent of a Godly people = The Leviathan.

Give me some reference, any, that demonstrates that you have read even a few chapters of that work.

phantastical images...

Read Of Demonology and Other Relics of the Religion of the Gentiles.

Hell, Read Aristotle's Poetics or Rhetoric. Or, read Kierkegaard's Sickness Unto Death. Many of the same ideas concerning idols, conceits and phantasms are found there. Like Kierkegaard's despair and phantasien, Hobbes speaks of 'motions of the brain and their 'phantastical inhabitants' OR fantasy. Like Kierkegaard, he sees human representations of their own fancies as idolatries, gods of their own making, like morality. Human morals are nothing more than a pantheon of pagan gods. Socrates, in Plato's Euthyphro, asked a similar question...

Anyway, to hell with that. Consider the etymology of the word "fan." We know one definition is a 'sports fan' (another form of modern idolatry). We know another to be one that is mechanical and moves the air...

Consider the etymology of 'fanatic.'

Consider Beelzebub is prince of phantasms or Satan is prince of the powers and spirits in the air(according to the Bible).

Think about the words fan, fanatic, fantasy - - then consider the Aristotle's idea of pthonos from Rhetoric... I understand the Left and where they get their power.